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Beerox



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Post   Posted: Apr 15, 2016 - 18:54 Reply with quote Back to top

It's the house rules forum.

Are we bothered by the name of the ruleset, or the fact he has ideas? Me confuse. I don't like the ideas so much either, but this thread is sporting some serious grumpy old man &%^#. So the OP is a bit spicy, big deal. Anything other than "What skill?" or "Hey join my league!" in the forums, I'm clicking. You know, at least 3 threads a month.
pac



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Post   Posted: Apr 15, 2016 - 21:34 Reply with quote Back to top

garyt1 wrote:
If I ever need a confidence booster I will have to smoke some of what Pac is having.

Pac, it is fair enough that you want to put out some roster ideas out but you will have to accept some criticism when you paint yourself as the Godfather of the BB revolution or some such bluster.

Guys, I have been around and taken all kinds of knocks. I am flameproof, trollproof and even shadowproof.

I am just someone posting on the internet. Stop trying to harsh my buzz for no reason.

If you really want a confidence booster, take a walk outside while listening to the Yeah Yeah Yeahs.

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There is some interesting ideas but as HM mentions having Witch Elves combined with other "good" Elves seems a bit off.

This is Blood Bowl. There are no alignments. Witch Elves are currently in a new journeyman phase where they go where they want, all by themselves, and kill who they want.

All elves are the same. High, Wood, Dark and Pro? Just different hats they put on. My "High Elf" team from the White Isle League? The Storm Warriors? There is a novel of the same name that they are drawn from. In the novel some elves arrive in Albion (in this case, the bit that is Ireland) and turn out to be Dark Elves and Chaos worshippers.

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Also there is a lot of positionals despite the lack of big guys for the teams listed so far.

There always have been a lot of positionals. It was the norm in second edition as well to have Linemen just in the reserves.

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I don't see why you say Sea Elves are not that good at Blood Bowl but then give them the same stats as Pro Elves.

Their re-rolls cost 70K, man. And a 6 3 4 7 stat line, by elf standards, is no good at all.

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Nor is it clear why you would insult someone because they play Tabletop.

Excuse me, have you read this thread? I am being trolled left and right here by people who know me (by reputation or otherwise) and are dialling in their friends to try and block this thread. If someone disses me, I am going to slap them right back down.

This is my thread. This is my train. Get on it or get out of the way.

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Also move 9 s3 is a very powerful player. To then consider lengthening the pitch would ruin slow teams. Also as mentioned the claw player is too much for that team. If you are going to ignore all suggestions then you may as well just post your whole ruleset in one go.

You aren't making suggestions. You are just saying no to everything. Why are you scared of fast elves? Why are you scared of an elf who is going to fight back?

Reach down somewhere inside yourself and try saying, "This is a fun team. It is a disparate bunch of elves sailing around the Warhammer World being pirates, traders and occasionally BBers. Is it balanced? They are drunk and lost at sea. Let's try it out while drinking some rum."

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Saying the site is dead isn't exactly going to invite positive suggestions.

Stop being so defensive. And so sensitive. I am not attacking or stealing anything of yours, am I? I am just saying the time has come for FUMBBL to redefine Blood Bowl, because this place is the best way to play it.

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pac



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Post   Posted: Apr 15, 2016 - 21:37 Reply with quote Back to top

licker wrote:
Why not just say you want to test your design there? Why come in all high and mighty and demand that FUMBBL change to fit your whims? Really, no one cares about your whims.


Okay, licker, that was a nice little flamewar the two of us had, wasn't it?

Want a few more rounds? Or are you too busy building Mr Trump's wall ahead of schedule?

You clearly don't like this thread, so just look away from it and leave it alone.

Stop trolling for a ban.

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pac



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Post   Posted: Apr 15, 2016 - 21:46 Reply with quote Back to top

straume wrote:
Hello pac, this thread seems awesome. Not sure you are trolling or not, but nevermind that.

I am not trolling at all. I am just defending myself against the usual barrage of criticism you get anywhere when you try to say that you are going to be the "Giant in the Playground" and fix things up for everyone.

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As for your rosters: I don`t think it seems a good idea to give the elf team (Sea Elves) claw and strenght-access. Also witch elf, a Wardancer and a st3 ma9-player(!). Compared to the other rosters you have posted it seems way better. Is this a design decision? Are we allowed to point it out in "your" thread

Just one single elf with Claw cannot possibly be overpowered. It is just off-putting, because no one's done it before. Same with having an S access elf or two.

This team is a circus team: try building a roster from it with 1000K. It is going to be very difficult. It will be almost all Sea Elf Linemen, 1 or 2 of the specialists, and not many re-rolls at all. At low TR, this team is going to be a nightmare to play, especially with so many other teams going back to basics and having proper positionals with effective skills. You are never going to get all of those 100K players on your roster at the same time, even if you elfball like crazy.

All commentary is welcome here. This is my thread only in the sense that I started it. If the threadcrapping becomes intolerable, I will call in my friends in the admin team to clean it up. For now though, let's allow people to get their "You can't do this!!!1one" reactions out of their system.

I invented Blood Polo man. I've got backing from the Punjab for that one. Now there's a game you need to be drunk to design!

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easilyamused



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Post   Posted: Apr 15, 2016 - 21:52 Reply with quote Back to top

pac wrote:
Stop being so defensive. And so sensitive.


You need to take a breath and take your own advice here Pac.

New rules always generate discussion, some positive, some negative and some completely indifferent.

Rather than just taking the stance of saying this is *my* thread, like it or leave it. Actually take the time to put across you point of view and explain your reasoning.

I think everyone is a little confused as you have started with the rosters and no rules help people relate how they will work. A lot of people here have played BB for a very long time but trying to remember the rules from 2nd and 3rd edition? Without a copy of the rule book close to hand I couldn't go through the main differences.

And once you put a thread on a public forum it goes from being *your* thread to *our* thread.

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easilyamused



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Post   Posted: Apr 15, 2016 - 21:56 Reply with quote Back to top

But as I alluded to a couple of pages ago, this is getting way off topic very quickly.

This is why I thought a public note might be easier, everyone can see everything and it all ties in together.

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pac



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Post   Posted: Apr 15, 2016 - 21:59 Reply with quote Back to top

easilyamused wrote:
I think everyone is a little confused as you have started with the rosters and no rules help people relate how they will work. A lot of people here have played BB for a very long time but trying to remember the rules from 2nd and 3rd edition? Without a copy of the rule book close to hand I couldn't go through the main differences.

Relax. No one is screaming. Jan Mattys has won his war. Check out my blog and just give it a 6. Wink

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And once you put a thread on a public forum it goes from being *your* thread to *our* thread.

It starts to become "our" thread when you start treating it like a precious child (and not an unwanted abortion) that might die in an instant if I — a coach who has done an awful lot for FUMBBL — decide I can't take any more insults from those who think this land belongs to them now.

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Throweck



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Post   Posted: Apr 15, 2016 - 22:51 Reply with quote Back to top

I don't think anyone is insulting you. You seem to be upset that some people just don't like your rosters. Each to their own and all that.

You come across as a little arrogant which I think brushes people up the wrong way but that could be written word perhaps.

So where in Nottingham are you?

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ramchop



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Post   Posted: Apr 15, 2016 - 23:04
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pac wrote:
I — a coach who has done an awful lot for FUMBBL

History lesson please, I'm still relatively new here. Why should I take your ideas any more seriously than similar threads by overexcited newcomers? What have you done for FUMBBL? If it is good stuff I shall thank you, because I love FUMBBL.
licker



Joined: Jul 10, 2009

Post   Posted: Apr 15, 2016 - 23:12 Reply with quote Back to top

pac wrote:
licker wrote:
Why not just say you want to test your design there? Why come in all high and mighty and demand that FUMBBL change to fit your whims? Really, no one cares about your whims.


Okay, licker, that was a nice little flamewar the two of us had, wasn't it?

Want a few more rounds? Or are you too busy building Mr Trump's wall ahead of schedule?

You clearly don't like this thread, so just look away from it and leave it alone.

Stop trolling for a ban.


Rolling Eyes

I like this thread actually.

I just think you're an over-reacting douchetard with a major superiority complex.

You want your ideas taken seriously? Good luck with that after displaying an utter inability to accept any criticism from anyone. I also love it when people get all huffy and accuse anyone who disagrees with them of being a troll.

With skin as thin as yours do you ever go outside?
the_Sage



Joined: Jan 13, 2011

Post   Posted: Apr 15, 2016 - 23:46 Reply with quote Back to top

pac wrote:
mister__joshua wrote:
This one certainly started out with a lot more bravado and bigger claims than most though!

No bravado about it.


pac wrote:
I've decided to lead a project to establish, from a base here on FUMBBL, what we will call "Blood Bowl Sixth Edition" (pretty sure we will get JJ's thumbs-up for that officially in due course).

I have zero interest in how or where you are playing BB. The purpose of this project is to revitalise FUMBBL.


Nope. No bravado here.

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coombz



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Post   Posted: Apr 15, 2016 - 23:54 Reply with quote Back to top

pac wrote:
I am just saying the time has come for FUMBBL to redefine Blood Bowl, because this place is the best way to play it.


funny thing is, I totally agree with you on this

I'd love to see LRBFUMBBL! ;]

unfortunately all of your ideas are garbage, and when nicer people then me have tried to give some constructive criticism you just reject it...

pac wrote:

It starts to become "our" thread when you start treating it like a precious child (and not an unwanted abortion) that might die in an instant if I — a coach who has done an awful lot for FUMBBL — decide I can't take any more insults from those who think this land belongs to them now.


oh nice, I see we've already gone to "threatening to take my (unasked for) ball and go home" Laughing for someone who has been around such a long time you seem remarkably thin-skinned!

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pac



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Post   Posted: Apr 16, 2016 - 02:36 Reply with quote Back to top

ramchop wrote:
History lesson please, I'm still relatively new here. Why should I take your ideas any more seriously than similar threads by overexcited newcomers? What have you done for FUMBBL? If it is good stuff I shall thank you, because I love FUMBBL.

Look it up.

I am not here to be your Google. If you don't know, then read up your history.

In the mean time, if you don't like it, avert your eyes.

What is everyone's problem here? I am not pissing on your chips.

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pac



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Post   Posted: Apr 16, 2016 - 02:38 Reply with quote Back to top

licker wrote:
With skin as thin as yours do you ever go outside?

All the time. They know who I am and they don't mess with me.

As soon as I figure out how the system works around here now, welcome to being reported, you worthless troll.


**Edited by WhatBall for language. Please mind your manners

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pac



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Post   Posted: Apr 16, 2016 - 02:40 Reply with quote Back to top

the_Sage wrote:
Nope. No bravado here.

Hello, little sage boy. Welcome to Theban country. You work at Delphi now. Someone comes along and asks for a prophecy, and you provide. You just tell them what the Thebans tell you to. The Thebans take advantage and steal everything, then maybe you get a cut.

In the mean time, let me ask you a couple of questions: who the hell are you? Who the hell do you think we are?

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