24 coaches online • Server time: 01:39
Forum Chat
Log in
Recent Forum Topics goto Post [L] OBBA Smack Talk ...goto Post Cindy fumbling after...goto Post FUMBBL HAIKU'S
SearchSearch 
Post new topic   Reply to topic
View previous topic Log in to check your private messages View next topic
Endzone



Joined: Apr 01, 2008

Post   Posted: Oct 08, 2016 - 15:43 Reply with quote Back to top

I have played over 1300 games on Fumbbl and didn't know this so my guess is that most coaches don't and would 'auto click' the catch reroll.
ArrestedDevelopment



Joined: Sep 14, 2015

Post   Posted: Oct 08, 2016 - 15:49 Reply with quote Back to top

I always tell people as the blitz! KO result comes up. Pretty sure most don't believe me, but usually they end up having to reroll something else before the catch anyway.

_________________
Image
bassista



Joined: Dec 31, 2009

Post   Posted: Oct 08, 2016 - 16:00 Reply with quote Back to top

I had no idea about it too. Good to know, i'll try to explain this in the future.

after all it is possible to "prove" it: it is in the bug list

http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=bugs

if you search the word "catch" is the 6th result. Better than link the whole discussion, maybe. I think it is enough to let the opponent believe you.
JellyBelly



Joined: Jul 08, 2009

Post   Posted: Oct 08, 2016 - 16:04 Reply with quote Back to top

I'll start letting my opponents know as well, so we can get the word around (right after I let them know they're a filthy luckster!) Wink

_________________
"Opinions are like arseholes, everybody's got them and they all stink." - The protagonist, Fallout 2

"Go for the eyes, Boo! Go for the eyes!!" Razz
kummo



Joined: Mar 29, 2016

Post   Posted: Oct 08, 2016 - 16:37 Reply with quote Back to top

Nice that you brought this up. I've been having many blitzes recently. Usually i have used rr on some dodge or gfi, i'm not sure if i have rerolled catch attempt.

But now i will not try that knowing it's bug Smile

Will spread the word!
Kryten



Joined: Sep 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Oct 08, 2016 - 19:53
FUMBBL Staff
Reply with quote Back to top

Make a page in the Help, make it obvious. Ask for help updating with the known bugs/solutions/workarounds.
pythrr



Joined: Mar 07, 2006

Post   Posted: Oct 08, 2016 - 21:39 Reply with quote Back to top

Kryten wrote:
This is not a client difference. This is a bug. Coaches should not use a team reroll to catch the kickoff on a Blitz kick off result. That said - a lot of coaches are unaware and reasonably expect the client to get this correct. We tell coaches to click "no" for the team reroll.


so, if we inform our opponent of this, they should not do it?

_________________
Image
Image
kummo



Joined: Mar 29, 2016

Post   Posted: Oct 08, 2016 - 21:47 Reply with quote Back to top

pythrr wrote:
Kryten wrote:
This is not a client difference. This is a bug. Coaches should not use a team reroll to catch the kickoff on a Blitz kick off result. That said - a lot of coaches are unaware and reasonably expect the client to get this correct. We tell coaches to click "no" for the team reroll.


so, if we inform our opponent of this, they should not do it?


Yes. Bug abusing is against site rules.
Wreckage



Joined: Aug 15, 2004

Post   Posted: Oct 08, 2016 - 22:49 Reply with quote Back to top

...It would be so much less troublesome to just make it legal... what a bother
Semitence



Joined: May 18, 2013

Post   Posted: Oct 08, 2016 - 22:52 Reply with quote Back to top

Wreckage wrote:
...It would be so much less troublesome to just make it legal... what a bother


This x 10000000
ramchop



Joined: Oct 12, 2013

Post   Posted: Oct 08, 2016 - 22:55
FUMBBL Staff
Reply with quote Back to top

FUMBBL Rules wrote:
Client Bugs
- If a game is corrupted into a point where it is unplayable the game is abandoned. Both teams are allowed to continue playing.
- If the client does something wrong in the result calculations it is considered as an interpretation of the rules and the match stands as-is. This includes out-of-sync type problems which make the client end the game prematurely.
- Abusing obvious bugs for your own benefit is not allowed.
- All bugs in the client should be reported through the "Bug - Reports" system of the site.


A vampire ending a team turn immediately after taking a bite is an obvious bug. As the opposition player, how do you not "abuse" this bug? A very grey area and open to interpretation and accusations.

Another way to look at it is: if it doesn't break the client then just play on. Client interpretation are the rules. Now this doesn't follow the site rules above but is a lot more cut and dried. Some Leagues follow this way of thinking.
ArrestedDevelopment



Joined: Sep 14, 2015

Post   Posted: Oct 08, 2016 - 23:10 Reply with quote Back to top

Wreckage wrote:
...It would be so much less troublesome to just make it legal... what a bother


Disagree entirely - for example: it's one of the few ways you might actually get out of a blitz! KO event being terrible for you when shorthanded.


And I don't see this as comparable the to the BL bug at all - nobody in that situation has absolutely any power to "correct" the client bug. Literally all you have to do here is click "no".

[edit] We don't pick and choose which parts of CRP we want to play by in other parts of the game when it's possible to stick to the spirit of the rules, why differ here?

_________________
Image
garyt1



Joined: Mar 12, 2011

Post   Posted: Oct 09, 2016 - 00:07 Reply with quote Back to top

I don't think it is an obvious bug. It only comes up occasionally and most people haven't seen cases where you can't reroll your failed dice (other than for example armour and injury). Also if you tell someone they are not allowed to reroll I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't believe you.

_________________
“A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer.”
sheepycollins



Joined: Sep 21, 2015

Post   Posted: Oct 09, 2016 - 00:16 Reply with quote Back to top

And you would look weird if the kick off is blitz and the first thing you say to your opponent is "don't forget you can't use a team RR to catch the ball"

Usually the first thing I say when getting blitzed is "oh bolloks"

_________________
Things I like and things I hate? I don't feel like telling you that. My dreams for the future? Never really thought about that. As for my hobbies... I have lots of hobbies.
Kryten



Joined: Sep 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Oct 09, 2016 - 00:42
FUMBBL Staff
Reply with quote Back to top

garyt1 wrote:
I don't think it is an obvious bug. It only comes up occasionally and most people haven't seen cases where you can't reroll your failed dice (other than for example armour and injury). Also if you tell someone they are not allowed to reroll I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't believe you.


You don't think it's an obvious bug when the client prompts you to use a team reroll outside of your turn?
Display posts from previous:     
 Jump to:   
All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Post new topic   Reply to topic
View previous topic Log in to check your private messages View next topic