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JellyBelly



Joined: Jul 08, 2009

Post   Posted: May 23, 2018 - 04:26 Reply with quote Back to top

An idea I had to improve the Dump Off skill would be to allow the ballcarrier to make a hand-off action, as an alternative to a quick pass. It would reduce the dice rolls required, if they have an adjacent receiver and make the skill more usable, without having to also have Nerves of Steel on the carrier.

I don't know if it would get chosen more on skill-ups, but it could make for some interesting tactics and would make the DE Runner more worthwhile.

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JmBeers



Joined: Aug 13, 2012

Post   Posted: May 23, 2018 - 04:49 Reply with quote Back to top

its called nerves of steel.

Dump off is amazing. People don't take the DE Runner because of av 7 but more people should take do on other passers.
gpope



Joined: Jun 04, 2010

Post   Posted: May 23, 2018 - 05:05 Reply with quote Back to top

A handoff option might be overpowered. Being able to reduce a blitz to mere 1 in 6 odds of getting the ball loose? For a single skill? Granted it still takes good positioning but that shuts down ballcarrier sacks insanely hard.
pythrr



Joined: Mar 07, 2006

Post   Posted: May 23, 2018 - 05:51 Reply with quote Back to top

my ag5 dorf runner had DO, and used to to pass to the other ag4 dorf runner. fun times.

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Irgy



Joined: Feb 21, 2007

Post   Posted: May 23, 2018 - 05:52 Reply with quote Back to top

Personally I think dump off is good enough already when used properly. Handoff would be too good. Not unstoppable mind you, because NOS is pretty close already (but, fairly, costs a whole extra skill) and the blitzing team should be marking the catchers as best they can anyway.
robocoyote



Joined: Oct 19, 2010

Post   Posted: May 23, 2018 - 06:52 Reply with quote Back to top

dump off pro elf catchers are amazing!!!!
Catalyst32



Joined: Jul 14, 2008

Post   Posted: May 23, 2018 - 07:16 Reply with quote Back to top

robocoyote wrote:
dump off pro elf catchers are amazing!!!!



That makes me imagine Harlem Globetrotters-esque team Dumping Off the ball to each other while hapless defenders stumble around trying to sack them while the whistling sounds of "Sweet Georgia Brown" plays throughout the stadium.
robocoyote



Joined: Oct 19, 2010

Post   Posted: May 23, 2018 - 07:24 Reply with quote Back to top

I have one in the NCBB right now. it's retarted good
JellyBelly



Joined: Jul 08, 2009

Post   Posted: May 23, 2018 - 12:01 Reply with quote Back to top

JmBeers wrote:
its called nerves of steel.


To be fair, my whole point is that if handoffs were allowed, it would make DO more useful, without having to have a whole second skill to enable it. Besides, even with NoS, there is still a pass roll to an adjacent player.

robocoyote wrote:
dump off pro elf catchers are amazing!!!!


This is true. I've seen Pro Elf teams where one carrier catcher has DO and a second receiver one has leap. There is literally no way to stop them (unless they roll badly) - for just 2 skills! Wink (well, I guess a tents on the receiver one might, for teams that have access ..)

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robocoyote



Joined: Oct 19, 2010

Post   Posted: May 23, 2018 - 12:50 Reply with quote Back to top

indeed my normally strategy is pass the ball to the dump off catcher and send him up the field with a loose cage of line elves and 1-2 catchers nearby
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