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Rigolgm



Joined: Sep 14, 2018

Post   Posted: Sep 14, 2018 - 20:48 Reply with quote Back to top

Hi

Does anyone have any view (or even experience) regarding the Gnome 'Secret League' team from FUMBBL? Details below.

Most of them have Stunty but no Dodge or even an Agility option (without doubles), which is scary!

Despite my negative title, I do believe they've tried to balance the team. However my league colleagues seem excited about the prospect of me choosing this team. Plenty of sniggering!

I might give them a go because they look fun. But I'll be honest - half my games against human players have been with my Ogre team, which has been very brain-achey (and low-scoring!), so I don't really want to spend days painting a gnome team for a 12-game league only to find they are painfully bad.

All views very welcome!

https://fumbbl.com/help:GnomeT :

0-16 Linemen 40,000 6 3 3 7 Stunty G SAP
0-2 Runners 60,000 7 2 3 6 Sure Hands, Dodge, Stunty GA SP
0-2 Blitzers 70,000 6 3 3 8 Stunty, Block GS AP
0-1 Bombadier 40,000 6 3 3 7 Stunty, Bombadier, Secret Weapon G SAP
0-2 Gnomish Contraption 140,000 3 6 1 10 Mighty Blow, Stand Firm, Bonehead S GAP
Re-roll counter 60,000 gold pieces each
Star Players Dwarf
Apothecary Yes
Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Sep 14, 2018 - 20:51 Reply with quote Back to top

Just remember you have a st3 team there they are decent at blocking. Use the big guys to tie up a few players. Don't waste your time with the bombarded

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Garion



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Post   Posted: Sep 14, 2018 - 20:52 Reply with quote Back to top

Also test them out here if you aren't sure:)

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FinnDiesel



Joined: Mar 07, 2018

Post   Posted: Sep 14, 2018 - 20:54 Reply with quote Back to top

There equivalent to a dwarf stunty

and gnomes are fun but get hurt https://fumbbl.com/p/match?id=4009868

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Rigolgm



Joined: Sep 14, 2018

Post   Posted: Sep 14, 2018 - 22:08 Reply with quote Back to top

Tier-wise, they seem maybe tier 2?
FinnDiesel



Joined: Mar 07, 2018

Post   Posted: Sep 14, 2018 - 22:44 Reply with quote Back to top

If your using the three system, about that

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datom



Joined: Mar 22, 2017

Post   Posted: Sep 15, 2018 - 00:09 Reply with quote Back to top

I'd recommend watching a few Manzoo replays:

https://fumbbl.com/p/team?team_id=873152

Really plays them well.

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Rigolgm



Joined: Sep 14, 2018

Post   Posted: Sep 15, 2018 - 00:21 Reply with quote Back to top

Great stuff! Thanks! I'm up for a mad team (Playing Ogres for so long was heavy and not so much 'fun' as 'demanding'!). Will look.
Rigolgm



Joined: Sep 14, 2018

Post   Posted: Sep 15, 2018 - 00:23 Reply with quote Back to top

Oh, and I love his Hail Mary Pass on the Bombardier!
Rigolgm



Joined: Sep 14, 2018

Post   Posted: Sep 15, 2018 - 11:13 Reply with quote Back to top

datom wrote:
I'd recommend watching a few Manzoo replays:

https://fumbbl.com/p/team?team_id=873152

Really plays them well.


Can I check. How do I 'watch' his replays? I had a look at your link and it's great stuff but I couldn't see any way to watch how he plays.
jdmickleburgh



Joined: Nov 30, 2011

Post   Posted: Sep 15, 2018 - 11:23 Reply with quote Back to top

Click here https://fumbbl.com/p/team?op=view&showmatches=1&team_id=873152 and then click the green circle next to each match to bring up the match page. The link to the replay is in the centre of the match page.

And for my money, they're not a stunty team. They're a team which happens to have stunty.

Same as slann are not a leaping team, they're a team which happens to have leap

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Rigolgm



Joined: Sep 14, 2018

Post   Posted: Sep 15, 2018 - 12:14 Reply with quote Back to top

jdmickleburgh wrote:
Click here https://fumbbl.com/p/team?op=view&showmatches=1&team_id=873152 and then click the green circle next to each match to bring up the match page. The link to the replay is in the centre of the match page.

And for my money, they're not a stunty team. They're a team which happens to have stunty.


Thanks. It gives me a 'jnlp' file but I'm afraid I don't know what to do with it.
datom



Joined: Mar 22, 2017

Post   Posted: Sep 15, 2018 - 13:45 Reply with quote Back to top

Ah ok, so what are you using? If its windows 10, click 'open with', navigate to the Java folder, and choose javaws.exe . Should work!

It may be you need to isntall java:

https://www.java.com/en/download/

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harvestmouse



Joined: May 13, 2007

Post   Posted: Sep 16, 2018 - 01:50 Reply with quote Back to top

Gnomes appeared in some of the early warhammers. Their stats were remarkably similar to humans,hence the stat lines.

They were part of the dwarf army however and there were several references to their similarities. Mixed communities, getting angry with being confused as dwarfs, as well as racially being related.

I guess with this list the nod is the similarity in rosters. However for me as the lino is weak it's screaming for physical similarities too. Either S access on linos or thick skull. Personally I would put in 2 dwarf blockers.

However if I recall gnomes couldn't mix in warhammer and that's why there are none in this list. I'd love to see some reference to the illusion aspect to. However without special rules it's tricky.
Rigolgm



Joined: Sep 14, 2018

Post   Posted: Sep 16, 2018 - 09:34 Reply with quote Back to top

harvestmouse wrote:
I'd love to see some reference to the illusion aspect to. However without special rules it's tricky.


Maybe something like 'Can get any inducement classified as a Wizard for half price, rounded down to the nearest 10k'.

They certainly feel like they need a boost.

And the gnome runner is bad. It's the same cost and abilities as a human catcher except it has worse MA, worse AV, swaps Catch for Sure Hands and adds Stunty. I know Stunty gels well with 2+ rerollable dodges ... but I'd still take the human every time.
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