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ph0enyx13



Joined: Nov 14, 2015
Post   Posted: May 07, 2026 - 23:21 Reply with quote Back to top
I was looking at the top orc teams in BBT and noticed that the top 3 were all carrying 2 throwers. I'm assuming it's a movement thing and to free the second blitzer from having to grab tackle because usually one of the throwers had wrestle or wrestle/tackle. I just thought it was weird because all or nearly all of the res orcs (super league, eurobowl training and that NAF tournament coming up) carry 1 thrower, but I guess that's also a cost issue due to the NAF rules that black box players don't need to worry about.
KidCrestHill



Joined: Aug 02, 2003
Post   Posted: May 08, 2026 - 01:57 Reply with quote Back to top
Mr. Thrower is back baby !!!
JackassRampant



Joined: Feb 26, 2011
Post   Posted: May 08, 2026 - 04:54 Reply with quote Back to top
KidCrestHill wrote:
Mr. Thrower is back baby !!!

This. With MA6, he's a good player. He skills more slowly than the others because TDs are only worth 2, but it's what you now get in lieu of two Blitzers to keep the team mobile.

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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007
Post   Posted: May 08, 2026 - 11:36 Reply with quote Back to top
I use 1 Orc Thrower because I want to keep the TV low, but having 2 for extra mobility makes sense too.
In Season 1 my Thrower failed to get a stat so I fired him. He had Blodge but without AG 2+ is not that good for the TV cost.
I plan to get Leader on the new one and maybe I could use the Goblin as ball carrier, I have to think about that.
JackassRampant



Joined: Feb 26, 2011
Post   Posted: May 08, 2026 - 11:49 Reply with quote Back to top
I refuse to pay 50k for an easily-negated skill.

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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007
Post   Posted: May 08, 2026 - 11:59 Reply with quote Back to top
Yes, I would have not taken Dodge, but I didn't roll +MA/+AG so I took the Secondary.
Fired him later because too expensive.
Since stat boosts are cheaper and easier to get and you can nominate the players, maybe a Goblin could be an alternative ball carrier (cheaper to re-draft too).
I have to play some games to make up my mind.
ph0enyx13



Joined: Nov 14, 2015
Post   Posted: May 08, 2026 - 12:14 Reply with quote Back to top
MattDakka wrote:
I use 1 Orc Thrower because I want to keep the TV low,

2 orc throwers and a leader is 170k tv and 2 line orcs and a reroll is 160k tv. Like if you take leader on one thrower it completely offsets the cost of the second thrower when compared to a line orc
Zelmor



Joined: Sep 29, 2022
Post   Posted: May 08, 2026 - 12:20 Reply with quote Back to top
2 throwers, no goblin.
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007
Post   Posted: May 08, 2026 - 12:42 Reply with quote Back to top
ph0enyx13 wrote:

2 orc throwers and a leader is 170k tv and 2 line orcs and a reroll is 160k tv. Like if you take leader on one thrower it completely offsets the cost of the second thrower when compared to a line orc

Yes, but the 2nd Thrower has lower AV than a Lineman and no S access.
If I want 1 more Guard and higher AV I don't take the 2nd Thrower.
I think I should be fine with just 1 Thrower as Leader caddy.
Then I will focus the SPPs on the Goblin to have a freak ball carrier cheaper to re-draft.
That's the plan.
JackassRampant



Joined: Feb 26, 2011
Post   Posted: May 09, 2026 - 06:22 Reply with quote Back to top
MattDakka wrote:
ph0enyx13 wrote:

2 orc throwers and a leader is 170k tv and 2 line orcs and a reroll is 160k tv. Like if you take leader on one thrower it completely offsets the cost of the second thrower when compared to a line orc

Yes, but the 2nd Thrower has lower AV than a Lineman and no S access.
If I want 1 more Guard and higher AV I don't take the 2nd Thrower.
I think I should be fine with just 1 Thrower as Leader caddy.
Then I will focus the SPPs on the Goblin to have a freak ball carrier cheaper to re-draft.
That's the plan.
10k and -AV for +MA, +PA, Pass, Sure Hands, and P access, on one guy. It's seriously worth it, because like you said, that Thrower is AV9+ and might not stay in the game. So having a backup matters a lot.

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albator2001



Joined: Aug 02, 2003
Post   Posted: May 09, 2026 - 08:38 Reply with quote Back to top
Goblin is very useful for 1 turn TD.
CrisisChris



Joined: Dec 11, 2023
Post   Posted: May 09, 2026 - 11:07 Reply with quote Back to top
albator2001 wrote:
Goblin is very useful for 1 turn TD.


I am not a dedicated Orc player, so take my oppinion with caution. But I think the Gobbo is exactly that: TTM ammunition for a 1TTD attempt. I would not want to spend a lot of SPP to develop him into a MA8 ball carrier only to see him be crippled failing a landing or going down a Troll's throat.

A leader caddy and a fast carrier are IMO a good way for the Orcs. Even more so keeping in mind the 'replacement' comment of Jack...
ph0enyx13



Joined: Nov 14, 2015
Post   Posted: May 09, 2026 - 12:50 Reply with quote Back to top
Zelmor wrote:
2 throwers, no goblin.

albator2001 wrote:
Goblin is very useful for 1 turn TD.

CrisisChris wrote:

But I think the Gobbo is exactly that: TTM ammunition for a 1TTD attempt.

for what it's worth the top 3 bbt orc teams are all
>troll
>2 Bubs
>2 blitzers
>2 Mr. throws
>5 line orcs
>1 goblin
>apo
>some combo of rerolls and a loner to get to 3 or 4 rerolls
nearly every res team in super league, that NAF league that's up on the top bar and eurobowl training has a goblin
JackassRampant wrote:
It's seriously worth it, because like you said, that Thrower is AV9+ and might not stay in the game. So having a backup matters a lot.

it looks like most of the teams who carry 2 throwers are trying to field both throwers for offense and defense, and you are correct in that from the games I've checked out it's pretty common for at least one Mr. throw to be MNG, KO'd or Cas'd and for the team to only have one thrower in the second half
JackassRampant



Joined: Feb 26, 2011
Post   Posted: May 09, 2026 - 14:16 Reply with quote Back to top
CrisisChris wrote:
I am not a dedicated Orc player, so take my oppinion with caution. But I think the Gobbo is exactly that: TTM ammunition for a 1TTD attempt. I would not want to spend a lot of SPP to develop him into a MA8 ball carrier only to see him be crippled failing a landing or going down a Troll's throat.

I occasionally use him for that, but the Gobbo has more functions, because he has Devious primary.
ph0enyx13 wrote:
it looks like most of the teams who carry 2 throwers are trying to field both throwers for offense and defense, and you are correct in that from the games I've checked out it's pretty common for at least one Mr. throw to be MNG, KO'd or Cas'd and for the team to only have one thrower in the second half

I start that way with 11 players, but once I have my numbers up I tend to go for an offense Thrower who gets Block and stats, and a both-ways Thrower who gets Leader and Block, so I'm less likely to lose a player on defense. Orcs are kinda weird now, because suddenly they want bodies, and they can't afford to care about TV bloat in a lot of formats, which is new.

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JimmyFantastic



Joined: Feb 06, 2007
Post   Posted: May 09, 2026 - 16:11 Reply with quote Back to top
Yes goblin is essential for ttm
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