Carnis
Joined: Feb 03, 2009
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Feb 28, 2026 - 14:13 |
 
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Hi!
Is anybody else amused (or bemused) by The absolute hacking GW gave to The bb2025 dwarf team.
Secondary Access S on longbeards means a guard/MB longbeard will cost a whopping 170k in team value.
I think they went in the right direction with The team removing ubiquitous block/tackle. I just think they overdid it somewhat.
Maybe in bb2030 we will get rid of secondary skill TV penalty.
Now I can see longbeards skilling tackle, Pro, Fend ? (😂), or a statup for +av @10k or +ST @60k. Reaching stats will Be hard Even with 3spp cas.
Im mentally moving dwarfs in league from tier 0.8 to tier 1.5.
Thoughts? Discuss
I love how chaos got love this edition. Even undivided gets thickskull on horned beastmen (thematically makes sense, kind of) |
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XtremeXwing
Joined: Dec 03, 2004
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Feb 28, 2026 - 14:48 |
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Yeah dwarfs in the new edition are in a bit of a tough place.
For reasons like you have already mentioned, the Blitzer -ag nerf also seems a bit unwarranted. The fouling play style is fine but not with 70k players
It will be good for the game as new teams can have some time in the sun but if you only play Dwarves you are going to be sad for quite some time.... |
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Sp00keh
Joined: Dec 06, 2011
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Feb 28, 2026 - 15:10 |
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dwarves got brutalised yes. it's also bad they made the blitzers worse AG so u dont have them for recovery if the runner gets sacked
but, as a rookie team they actually play pretty similar to how they always did |
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Carnis
Joined: Feb 03, 2009
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Feb 28, 2026 - 15:21 |
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| Sp00keh wrote: | dwarves got brutalised yes. it's also bad they made the blitzers worse AG so u dont have them for recovery if the runner gets sacked
but, as a rookie team they actually play pretty similar to how they always did |
Without doubt, 9 starting block is .. a lot. Especially on this edition.
Dwarf coaches can just play chaos dwarf for old skool 8xguard. Bit silly to keep CDB access, but at the same Time steal it from dwarves. |
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MerryZ
Joined: Nov 28, 2005
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Feb 28, 2026 - 16:07 |
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Bit silly to compare CDs and Dworfs.
Also people dont think much about defensive as blanket skill.
For one they seem a lot more fun to play and to play against than before. First time in bloodbowl history they are atleast moderately intteresting.
Roller also first time ever an option.
PS. Hobgoblins now have only one skill to pick. |
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Carnis
Joined: Feb 03, 2009
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Feb 28, 2026 - 16:56 |
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| MerryZ wrote: | Bit silly to compare CDs and Dworfs.
Roller also first time ever an option.
PS. Hobgoblins now have only one skill to pick. |
1) why do you see roller as an option?
2) I did miss hobbos losing wrestle Access, that is big. Though they can get "eye gouge" 🫣. Still 2 viable D skills.
With sneaky git reworded to bb2016 interpretation it's value (after DP) depends on client interpretation.
Back in CRP/bb16 tabletop you could use dirty player on 6's to break armor on 1+5 / 2+4 / 4+2 / 5+1, whilst not using it on 3+3.
This way could breach armor without rolling dbls on 3/25 cases. This rounds up to 2/9 chance of sentoff per succesful foul after arguing The call, with +1 on injury in 21/25 cases. Well worth +20k in TV (after dirty player) |
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MerryZ
Joined: Nov 28, 2005
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Feb 28, 2026 - 19:53 |
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dworfs get 50k bribes and you can get one bribe on every game if you have treasury.
and SG is kinda meh in 2025 ruleset imo, would never get eye gouge on hobbos o,O |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Feb 28, 2026 - 19:53 |
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Eye Gouge isn't viable dude |
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Carnis
Joined: Feb 03, 2009
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Feb 28, 2026 - 20:18 |
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| MerryZ wrote: | dworfs get 50k bribes and you can get one bribe on every game if you have treasury.
and SG is kinda meh in 2025 ruleset imo, would never get eye gouge on hobbos o,O |
Bb25 kills treasuries, I could never afford that.
Winnings is FF+opponent FF divided by 2 + 10k If didn't stall and 10k per touchdown... Thats 30-50k per game with 3ff. |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Feb 28, 2026 - 21:21 |
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You won't have 3ff though... |
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Drrek
Joined: Jul 23, 2012
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Feb 28, 2026 - 22:35 |
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My problem isn't even that they nerfed dorfs, my problem is from both a play and fluff perspective they aren't dorfs anymore, they are some other thing that murdered them and are wearing their skin. |
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Carnis
Joined: Feb 03, 2009
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Feb 28, 2026 - 22:39 |
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| JimmyFantastic wrote: | | You won't have 3ff though... |
I'll invest 10k in +2ff, its paid back instantly. |
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Chingis
Joined: Jul 09, 2007
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Feb 28, 2026 - 22:49 |
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They were stumpy-legged but relentless and heavily-armoured little fighting nuggets. They're now stumpy-legged but relentless and heavily-armoured little fighting nuggets.
Is the overwhelming thing that made them dwarves, fluff-wise, really that they got guard as a primary rather than a secondary skill in the Blood Bowl rules?
Of course they're still dwarves! |
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Grod
Joined: Sep 30, 2003
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Mar 01, 2026 - 02:14 |
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Tier 1.5 ain't that bad - everyone can't be tier 1. With cheaper bribes to keep the death roller on the field and/or to play a fouling game, defensive all round, and block so much more expensive for teams that don't start with it, there is upside too? Also, agility is overrated - now the whole team can gather the ball on a 2+ (death roller aside). |
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Kransky
Joined: Sep 12, 2005
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Mar 01, 2026 - 08:55 |
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| Drrek wrote: | | My problem isn't even that they nerfed dorfs, my problem is from both a play and fluff perspective they aren't dorfs anymore, they are some other thing that murdered them and are wearing their skin. |
Thing was, they never played like dwarves at all. Dwarves are meant to be tough, disciplined and good at tactics.
The old Dwarves never worked like that. You grabbed Guard and MB and jammed them into the centre and fought like short Chaos Warriors.
The new playstyle might not to be your liking but it's at least a step towards giving the Dwarfs some flavour that isn't all monster bash. |
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