52 coaches online • Server time: 10:55
* * * Did you know? The number of matches played is 3159865.
Log in
Recent Forum Topics goto Post 3 Charges in a row.....goto Post New And Need Help Pl...goto Post parting of chat and ...
SearchSearch 
Post new topic   Reply to topic
View previous topic View next topic
Poll
Do you enjoy playing againist different playstyles?
Yes
89%
 89%  [ 42 ]
No
10%
 10%  [ 5 ]
Total Votes : 47


steinerp



Joined: Sep 18, 2005

Post   Posted: May 11, 2026 - 20:58 Reply with quote Back to top

I was recently informed that I don't play Bloodbowl "right" because I don't enjoy stalling and score very quickly and am hard to defend on defense because I play with teams developed past the NAF levels. While I fully admit that I could win more if I played a more traditional game, I don't care as long as my win rate is reasonable (currently 56% since coming back). I feel like, while suboptimal, this still meets the spirit of playing in the Competitive Division. But I also don't want to create NPE for others. Ten years ago this was 100% OK but I recognize that a lot has changed in BB and here. So my question is do you enjoy playing non-traditional players and figuring out their style or do you prefer to only players that play traditionally.

_________________
Join the E.L.F. meta league and show that elves do more than just score TDs
koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: May 11, 2026 - 21:32 Reply with quote Back to top

No option for "pie". No option for "It depends". Smile

Basically, it depends.

If I'm looking for a hardcore competitive game (very rare Wink ) and the opponent appears to be messing about, not knowing what they are doing, not playing a "proper" match, that may feel disappoiting, like a waste of an hour plus.

If I'm looking for something a bit more laid back then drawing an ultra competitive coach who is only about the win, might be just plain miserable.

I guess the secret is to look for your games in the right place. Wink

_________________
Image
Official + Secret League rosters, old style skill progression, NO re-draft OR full 2016 rules. OR... 4000TV All Star Bowl - ALWAYS recruiting!
steinerp



Joined: Sep 18, 2005

Post   Posted: May 11, 2026 - 21:43 Reply with quote Back to top

That last bit is basically my question. When looking for a game in C (competitive or BB) is that, for you, "proper matches only"

_________________
Join the E.L.F. meta league and show that elves do more than just score TDs
awambawamb



Joined: Feb 17, 2008

Post   Posted: May 11, 2026 - 21:52 Reply with quote Back to top

koadah wrote:
No option for "pie". No option for "It depends". Smile

[...]

drawing an ultra competitive coach who is only about the win, might be just plain miserable.

I guess the secret is to look for your games in the right place. Wink


this

oh and those 4-minuters? that must be their life philosophy. everywhere. 4 mintues and that's all. poor little uselets.

_________________
"la virtù sta nel cielo e nella terra, ma anche nelle nuvole e nelle stelle"

Image
koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: May 11, 2026 - 22:01 Reply with quote Back to top

steinerp wrote:
That last bit is basically my question. When looking for a game in C (competitive or BB) is that, for you, "proper matches only"


I don't play [C].

The issue is, it depends on who you get, and you could get anyone.

I play leagues. But in leagues it is not easy to just turn up at any time and get a game. But the advantage is that it is likely easier to tell from the league what kind of game people are looking for.

I would expect people playing Black Box to be a bit more competitive and people playing open [C] to be less so.
But I haven't played it, so...

I would say that people playing Black Box have signed up to play whoever they draw. So, play it your way and they'll just have to suck it up. Twisted Evil

If you score early, turn the ball over and score again, who's to say you're doing it wrong? Mr. Green

_________________
Image
Official + Secret League rosters, old style skill progression, NO re-draft OR full 2016 rules. OR... 4000TV All Star Bowl - ALWAYS recruiting!
ThierryM



Joined: Mar 27, 2015

Post   Posted: May 11, 2026 - 22:16 Reply with quote Back to top

Play the way you want to play.
There are no BB ayatollahs that will issue fatwas to condemn the way you want to enjoy your time spent together with others coaches that can be of all kinds !
It's a damn game, you'll have good experiences, you'll have bad experiences, you'll have great experiences, you'll have trash experiences.
But remember, those are pixels in a GAME (and sometimes beers with friends irl !).
Lately I read more and more topics / posts that take things far too seriously and it's getting a bit frightening...
Why so serious !

_________________
Breeder of Bony Legends !
Image
JimmyFantastic



Joined: Feb 06, 2007

Post   Posted: May 11, 2026 - 22:18 Reply with quote Back to top

steinerp wrote:
That last bit is basically my question. When looking for a game in C (competitive or BB) is that, for you, "proper matches only"


Nobody in the world does safe moves first every time, I wouldn't worry about "proper" matches.
Drrek



Joined: Jul 23, 2012

Post   Posted: May 11, 2026 - 22:32 Reply with quote Back to top

When I play in person games for the in-store league I play, I play very different than I do here on C. I do basically no stalling of any kind (neither the triggering the stalling rule, nor trying to just score later), and overall I play a bit looser. I play so much more than the average in-store player that I can afford to play loose and probably still win 80% of my games.

IN C I'll play whatever strategy with the team I'm playing I believe gives me the highest chance to win. Its a competitive environment, I'll play as competitively as I can. If my opponent tries different strategies, that is their prerogative, and its probably good for my development to play against as many different styles as I can.
PurpleChest



Joined: Oct 25, 2003

Post   Posted: May 12, 2026 - 00:48
FUMBBL Staff
Reply with quote Back to top

In Blood Bowl you have the right to play whatever way you wish, and so does your opponent.

_________________
Barbarus hic ego sum, quia non intelligor illis -Ovid
I am a barbarian here because i am not understood by anyone
steinerp



Joined: Sep 18, 2005

Post   Posted: May 12, 2026 - 00:52 Reply with quote Back to top

Obviously I have the right. I want to know if I am creating NPE for others or if others find playing vs different styles, fun and useful (which is my personal view)

_________________
Join the E.L.F. meta league and show that elves do more than just score TDs
Loon



Joined: Aug 14, 2024

Post   Posted: May 12, 2026 - 03:34 Reply with quote Back to top

Didn’t read OP, voted yes
JackassRampant



Joined: Feb 26, 2011

Post   Posted: May 12, 2026 - 03:46 Reply with quote Back to top

steinerp wrote:
Obviously I have the right. I want to know if I am creating NPE for others or if others find playing vs different styles, fun and useful (which is my personal view)

Play in a manner consistent with victory. If you gotta do it in your own particular idiom, as the squire says, welcome to the club. I been playing all-linemen Humans for a long time now: if anyone had the audacity to flag them as non-competitive, or to suggest that my suboptimal design was leading to an NPE experience, uh, there'd be an awful lot of chuckling, that's dumb. Well, they did sometimes create NPE experiences ... by clearing the pitch. That counts, right?

Play what you want. Play how you want. Do neither in a manner inconsistent with victory, except within the established contingencies in the former cases (playing halflings, say). CR gets sandbagged harder when you play Halflings or Ogres than when you don't stall, and not stalling is good league practice because it accelerates your SPP. I can't imagine that anyone couldn't think of a hundred valid justifications for not stalling. Just keep trying to win, that's what we insist on.

_________________
Lude enixe, obliviscatur timor.
Foad



Joined: Sep 02, 2007

Post   Posted: May 12, 2026 - 04:05 Reply with quote Back to top

steinerp wrote:
Obviously I have the right. I want to know if I am creating NPE for others or if others find playing vs different styles, fun and useful (which is my personal view)


NTA. It's the internet and the game is based on random number generation. Plenty of people have Negative Playing Experiences (NPE's) and are vocal about it. That has to do with them being Negative People Experiencing life. I respect that you are considerate about them, but you should respect the people that don't moan and complain, and prioritise the people that care about the community (you). You owe this to yourself, and if you get hung up on it, it is at that point that you are unfairly creating a negative experience for someone.

_________________
They see me Trollin', they hatin'...
Image
Chingis



Joined: Jul 09, 2007

Post   Posted: May 12, 2026 - 04:06 Reply with quote Back to top

I'm not sure halflings are inconsistent with victory. They may, on average, get less victories in number, but surely each individual victory is significantly more victorious?
Very Happy
steinerp



Joined: Sep 18, 2005

Post   Posted: May 12, 2026 - 04:58 Reply with quote Back to top

JackassRampant wrote:
to suggest that my suboptimal design was leading to an NPE experience, uh, there'd be an awful lot of chuckling, that's dumb. Well, they did sometimes create NPE experiences ... by clearing the pitch. That counts, right?


I recognized your name and remembered all lineman so I went back and looked at our record. Your linemen are a bunch of dirty cheaters!! You killed 6 elves in 4 games and did a ton of other injuries and won all four games vs. some good elf teams. Apparertly I got salty over a t16 foul in a game with 8 casualties but we both apologized and played 3 more games that were memorable enought to vaguely remember 6 years later. That is why we should be playing this game IMO but I get it if people want to play a familar, safe, tournament style games too. Fortunately it seems like that isn't the majority yet only the vocal minority.

_________________
Join the E.L.F. meta league and show that elves do more than just score TDs
Display posts from previous:     
 Jump to:   
All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Post new topic   Reply to topic
View previous topic View next topic