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2009-05-05 21:24:46
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The Fun Police
Recent FUMBBL events have lead me to believe I am a member of the biggest group of plonkers on this here interweb; the Fun Police.
Ever since the advent of Blackbox, there have been a small group of persistent coaches that have stopped at nothing to loudly explain a variety of things, that real men only play in the box, that Ranked is now obsolete and if you hang around you must just be a picker that doesn't want a real challenge, that tournamnets should be stripped from R and B only, etc, etc, ad nauseum. You know the sorts of points that have been made. Now, whether you agree with that or not isn't really the issue, the issue is the Fun Police.
Who are the Fun Police? Are they like some sort of secret society? How am I a member, and why am I a plonker?
The Fun Police are the band of coaches that tell you how you should have fun on FUMBBL. How you should agree with their point of view and cajole others into playing YOUR way and having YOUR fun. All other forms of fun are somehow lesser variants and should attract your distain.
I never thought I was a plonker. Well, I knew I was, but not in this way! This recent line of B coaches have been annoying me, not because they might have a point, but because I enjoy R. I don't enjoy it from a l33t me > other point of view, or that CR keeps me warm and cosy at night (yeah, right!), but I like that I can select the team I want to play with, I can select interesting fun games, and I can play and have fun how I like. The wall of noise from coaches wanting me to play in a way I found less fun riled me a bit. However, sadly, I've come to realise they remind me of me.
I spent lots of my early time on FUMBBL pointing out how I don't really like / see the point of Majors. It's a view I still hold to some degree or other, but I did get a bit militant about forcing the view on others. I like leagues. I think they're better tests of team management, skill, progression, etc, and I don't like how major teams are built using the R system.
Now, you might agree or disagree with that, that's not my point (and Lord knows, we're never all going to agree). My point is that me ramming that down some people's throats wasn't / isn't big nor clever. There is a large chunk of coaches that live for these things, get really excited by them, and find them enormous fun. Who the hell am I to belittle them and tell them their idea of fun isn't correct?
Other Fun Police members, I urge you to join me in resigning from the force for evermore from here on out. BB coaches should enjoy BB however the hell they like, all power to those of you that just get on and have fun and don't waste time telling everyone else how to do it.
Afterall; when you're 80 (if you're lucky) looking back on this period of your life (I'll take a wild guess; male, 25-35, first or second job, clinging to some sense of geeky community fun.... Or is that just me?), you'll wonder how you spent numerous hours playing a computer simulation of a board game and feel somewhat of a plonker. You could have solved World hunger with those thousands of hours down the toilet. Learnt the guitar. Spent more time with her indoors.
You'd feel an _even bigger_ plonker if you had spent even more hours telling someone else you'll never meet how your version of fun was better than theirs.
Be the lesser of two plonkers. Don't be in the Fun Police.
Ever since the advent of Blackbox, there have been a small group of persistent coaches that have stopped at nothing to loudly explain a variety of things, that real men only play in the box, that Ranked is now obsolete and if you hang around you must just be a picker that doesn't want a real challenge, that tournamnets should be stripped from R and B only, etc, etc, ad nauseum. You know the sorts of points that have been made. Now, whether you agree with that or not isn't really the issue, the issue is the Fun Police.
Who are the Fun Police? Are they like some sort of secret society? How am I a member, and why am I a plonker?
The Fun Police are the band of coaches that tell you how you should have fun on FUMBBL. How you should agree with their point of view and cajole others into playing YOUR way and having YOUR fun. All other forms of fun are somehow lesser variants and should attract your distain.
I never thought I was a plonker. Well, I knew I was, but not in this way! This recent line of B coaches have been annoying me, not because they might have a point, but because I enjoy R. I don't enjoy it from a l33t me > other point of view, or that CR keeps me warm and cosy at night (yeah, right!), but I like that I can select the team I want to play with, I can select interesting fun games, and I can play and have fun how I like. The wall of noise from coaches wanting me to play in a way I found less fun riled me a bit. However, sadly, I've come to realise they remind me of me.
I spent lots of my early time on FUMBBL pointing out how I don't really like / see the point of Majors. It's a view I still hold to some degree or other, but I did get a bit militant about forcing the view on others. I like leagues. I think they're better tests of team management, skill, progression, etc, and I don't like how major teams are built using the R system.
Now, you might agree or disagree with that, that's not my point (and Lord knows, we're never all going to agree). My point is that me ramming that down some people's throats wasn't / isn't big nor clever. There is a large chunk of coaches that live for these things, get really excited by them, and find them enormous fun. Who the hell am I to belittle them and tell them their idea of fun isn't correct?
Other Fun Police members, I urge you to join me in resigning from the force for evermore from here on out. BB coaches should enjoy BB however the hell they like, all power to those of you that just get on and have fun and don't waste time telling everyone else how to do it.
Afterall; when you're 80 (if you're lucky) looking back on this period of your life (I'll take a wild guess; male, 25-35, first or second job, clinging to some sense of geeky community fun.... Or is that just me?), you'll wonder how you spent numerous hours playing a computer simulation of a board game and feel somewhat of a plonker. You could have solved World hunger with those thousands of hours down the toilet. Learnt the guitar. Spent more time with her indoors.
You'd feel an _even bigger_ plonker if you had spent even more hours telling someone else you'll never meet how your version of fun was better than theirs.
Be the lesser of two plonkers. Don't be in the Fun Police.
Comments
Posted by diadochoi on 2009-05-05 22:48:39
If the Top of the CR can hear me from all the way at the bottom of the pile, I'd like to say I couldn't agree more.
Its good to hear a fellow Lancastrian speaking sense.
But more to the point, I have just got on with having fun even if I do lose most matches. Very quietly just getting on with digging my hole. Personally I enjoy the challenge of building a good team against adversity. I'm sure some coaches would like to play with some of the teams I've built up from a diet of draws and losses.
I'm sure I am a joke to most of "teh l33t" but thats R for you, I think your criticism "I don't like how Major Teams are Built using the R system" is true but thats the way they like to play and I am the centre of the Venn Diagram where all the styles meet.
maybe I have found my niche after Just completing my Rookie Year (as of April 28th) in L, which is more Fluff driven and I can't be the victim of Cherry PIcking. But even then I like every division when I want a game.
Live and Let Live?
Its good to hear a fellow Lancastrian speaking sense.
But more to the point, I have just got on with having fun even if I do lose most matches. Very quietly just getting on with digging my hole. Personally I enjoy the challenge of building a good team against adversity. I'm sure some coaches would like to play with some of the teams I've built up from a diet of draws and losses.
I'm sure I am a joke to most of "teh l33t" but thats R for you, I think your criticism "I don't like how Major Teams are Built using the R system" is true but thats the way they like to play and I am the centre of the Venn Diagram where all the styles meet.
maybe I have found my niche after Just completing my Rookie Year (as of April 28th) in L, which is more Fluff driven and I can't be the victim of Cherry PIcking. But even then I like every division when I want a game.
Live and Let Live?
Posted by G_Force on 2009-05-05 23:23:53
Sadly he's not a lancastrian, he's an imported southern nancy come up here to steal our jobs.
Hope you enjoyed writing that goo, you've just spoiled 5 of my precious "fun minutes" reading your drivel.
Nah, only kidding. well said and I support your sentiment. and in the word of Michael Jackson (i hope you don't go to quite such extremes) take a look at yourself and make that change.
Hope you enjoyed writing that goo, you've just spoiled 5 of my precious "fun minutes" reading your drivel.
Nah, only kidding. well said and I support your sentiment. and in the word of Michael Jackson (i hope you don't go to quite such extremes) take a look at yourself and make that change.
Posted by diadochoi on 2009-05-05 23:33:12
the cad!
Posted by TheCetusProject on 2009-05-06 00:39:41
I don't see what's wrong with promoting what you think is fun. If someone disagrees, they can just go off and do what they want. Whereas if you keep quiet, orthodox opinions persist unchallenged, and plenty of people probably shuffle in step with everyone else, aware that they are looking for something more but unable to work out what it is.
Please, resume vocal criticism of majors, we need more people to combat the foolish standard view that these are ultimate tests of blah blah blah and actually important, rather than a closed shop for a few people and an invitation for others to screw up their teams in the vain hope of getting somewhere.
Similarly, if people want to promote blackbox, then they should do so. Obviously any sort of promotion by those of us who think ranked is generally less cool than blackbox is going to be somewhat confrontational! But that shouldn't be seen as an attempt to force everyone to leave ranked, it should be seen as a way of grabbing like-minded people and making them think that blackbox is good for them. We're not going to attract people who like to choose their teams and choose their opponents, we want to reach out to people who are blackbox material but are treading water in ranked because it's the normal thing to do and they have yet to realise that the normal thing is not for them.
The world would be a much more boring and uninspiring place if we weren't allowed to employ over-the-top rhetoric to inspire people to follow a non-standard point of view.
Please, resume vocal criticism of majors, we need more people to combat the foolish standard view that these are ultimate tests of blah blah blah and actually important, rather than a closed shop for a few people and an invitation for others to screw up their teams in the vain hope of getting somewhere.
Similarly, if people want to promote blackbox, then they should do so. Obviously any sort of promotion by those of us who think ranked is generally less cool than blackbox is going to be somewhat confrontational! But that shouldn't be seen as an attempt to force everyone to leave ranked, it should be seen as a way of grabbing like-minded people and making them think that blackbox is good for them. We're not going to attract people who like to choose their teams and choose their opponents, we want to reach out to people who are blackbox material but are treading water in ranked because it's the normal thing to do and they have yet to realise that the normal thing is not for them.
The world would be a much more boring and uninspiring place if we weren't allowed to employ over-the-top rhetoric to inspire people to follow a non-standard point of view.
Posted by Russo on 2009-05-06 17:39:57
Cetus...
Its OK to have an opinion but the "[B] iz Bestest" crowd are abit vociferous in their opinion and a bit condecending in chat some times.
Me...[B] does not apeal to me at this moment in time. Maybe in the future I will give it a go but I will stick to 85% [L] groups and 15% [R] & [S] as they are the things that apeal to me the most.
I have no problem with coaches playing [B] only if they enjoy it and dont gripe.
Its OK to have an opinion but the "[B] iz Bestest" crowd are abit vociferous in their opinion and a bit condecending in chat some times.
Me...[B] does not apeal to me at this moment in time. Maybe in the future I will give it a go but I will stick to 85% [L] groups and 15% [R] & [S] as they are the things that apeal to me the most.
I have no problem with coaches playing [B] only if they enjoy it and dont gripe.
Posted by TheCetusProject on 2009-05-06 18:53:34
I suspect it is down to your opinions... the pro-B brigade don't bother me because I'm one of them. The Omigod! Tournaments are the ultimate and there is no point in playing without them! crew are the ones that really annoy me these days, but I expect this is less that they're annoying and stupid and more that I m fundamentally opposed to what they're saying.
One reason people will always exaggerate their case is that they're trying to influence people in positions of authority, and that is rarely done by being calm and reasonable and so on... it would be nice if it this would work, but I guess you have to live in the world you're in (or just ignore it and accept you're never going to get your way -- my preference usually!).
Another is that no advertising campaign ever succeeded by saying "This product is about as good as other similar products!". I don't think this is a bad thing, as long as you're not telling lies, being over-the-top is reasonable and it probably makes the world more fun. At least it does to me.
So I don't think we should get worked up about Fun Police, we should just be wary about taking everyone too seriously, and seeing everything as an attack on our preferences, and enjoy the fact that sometimes we an be enthused by an idea if it is expressed in a dramatic way.
Peace & Love,
Nath
One reason people will always exaggerate their case is that they're trying to influence people in positions of authority, and that is rarely done by being calm and reasonable and so on... it would be nice if it this would work, but I guess you have to live in the world you're in (or just ignore it and accept you're never going to get your way -- my preference usually!).
Another is that no advertising campaign ever succeeded by saying "This product is about as good as other similar products!". I don't think this is a bad thing, as long as you're not telling lies, being over-the-top is reasonable and it probably makes the world more fun. At least it does to me.
So I don't think we should get worked up about Fun Police, we should just be wary about taking everyone too seriously, and seeing everything as an attack on our preferences, and enjoy the fact that sometimes we an be enthused by an idea if it is expressed in a dramatic way.
Peace & Love,
Nath