Fishscale
Joined: Oct 07, 2003
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Oct 24, 2003 - 01:36 |
 
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Is it just me or does the host almost always win the coin toss? If so, there might be an advantage to hosting. Has anyone ever noticed this? |
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Christer
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nope. It seems fair to me and I host most of my games. |
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Golgomoth
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Oct 24, 2003 - 01:38 |
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no m8, i nearly always host, and nearly always lose toss |
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Aequitas
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Oct 27, 2003 - 02:08 |
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I host almost all of my games, and I notice that if I select Heads, I'm going to win over 80% of the time.
My friend has a similiar.. problem, in that everytime he selects Heads, it's Tails and vice versa. I try not to point and laugh, but it's interesting in that It's almost the exact opposite. But hey I'm not complaining, I enjoy winning the toss. Just thought I'd relate my... luck, if it really is that. |
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Mr-Klipp
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Oct 27, 2003 - 02:24 |
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It is 50/50, end of story. Perception affects the numbers you think you see, someone who thinks they are always winning the toss will notice the results that match with that belief and pay less attention to those that do not, and the same is true for someone who thinks they are losing the toss too often. Very basic psychology. |
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orochinagi
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Oct 27, 2003 - 03:05 |
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yep... i agree with Mr-Klipp. I think it's fair the way it is... i don't mind if my opponent hosts... but many times when i host i lose the toss... but one always tends to give more attention to failed rolls/tosses than succesful ones. |
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cataphract
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Oct 27, 2003 - 06:09 |
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| Aequitas wrote: | I host almost all of my games, and I notice that if I select Heads, I'm going to win over 80% of the time.
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nah you win 80% of the time whe u pick tails... tails never fails! |
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Rampage76
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Oct 27, 2003 - 07:44 |
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20% of the time it does  |
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Aequitas
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Oct 27, 2003 - 11:54 |
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Maybe that's how it's supposed to work Klippster, but it is NOT 50/50 for neither my friend nor myself. Perhaps it is luck, but it's one extreme for me (constantly winning the toss) and one extreme for my friend (constantly losing the toss). Neither seem to change over time. |
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Mr-Klipp
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Oct 27, 2003 - 12:06 |
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| Aequitas wrote: | | Maybe that's how it's supposed to work Klippster, but it is NOT 50/50 for neither my friend nor myself. Perhaps it is luck, but it's one extreme for me (constantly winning the toss) and one extreme for my friend (constantly losing the toss). Neither seem to change over time. |
Well, lets see here. You could be the one and only person who always manages to win the coin toss, or a basic principle of psychology (the same thing that makes people remember the correct predictions of psychics and horoscopes and forget all the wrong ones) is making you think you are.
I know which one I think is more likely.
If you don't believe me, take a notepad and put it by the computer. Write down every time you start a game, and the result of the coin toss. Not every time you win it, but record the results of every game you play and over time you will see it average out to 50/50. |
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Mully
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Oct 27, 2003 - 15:03 |
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I've noticed something else wrong as well. It seems I receive on every 1st half kick off. When I win the toss I choose to receive and when I lose the toss I end up receiving as well.
Weird .................... |
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BunnyPuncher
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Oct 27, 2003 - 18:18 |
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ummm... don't click on the YES! |
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psikobunny
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Oct 27, 2003 - 20:31 |
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The point Klipp is trying to make, one I agree with and have made before, is that if you "notice" or "think" things are a certain way, you have not engaged in impartial observation. You are relying on memory, which is at best flawed.
Go do a Google search on 'selective perception', 'subjective perception', and 'probability and perception' I'm sure you'll find some good reading on the matter instead of trying to convince those of us who know better with anecdotal evidence. |
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Grumbledook
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Oct 27, 2003 - 20:35 |
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i host pretty much every match i play and cause most people don't have the exp ofab checked on like they should i can't actually choose the coin just close the box, so neither of us chooses
i nearly always seem to lose it though, so maybe that evens it out against Aequitas always winning his
and as for it always being heads people used to say that in the chat a year ago and i used to pick heads every single match, i reckon i lost more than i won, like klipp said its perception, sure you might win 10 in row but 10 is hardly enough data to get a proper indication
its the same with betting red black on roulette, but i won't get into betting strategys on here or i will waffle on for ages ;] |
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Mr-Klipp
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Oct 27, 2003 - 23:06 |
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| Mully wrote: | I've noticed something else wrong as well. It seems I receive on every 1st half kick off. When I win the toss I choose to receive and when I lose the toss I end up receiving as well.
Weird .................... |
When you win the toss, you chose, and there are a number of people who like to kickoff the first half. |
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