Ansbach
Joined: Jul 12, 2004
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Jul 14, 2004 - 22:43 |
 
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I am a stats nut and enjoyed looking through all the stats on this website. Looking at the win percentages kind of suprised me... especially seeing Chaos Dwarves and Amazons at the very top. There isn't a whole lot of difference between most of the 'standard' races with the exception of the two at the very top and very bottom. I guess Norse and Chaos Humans seem to be particularly bad. I was also suprised that Orcs and Humans are near the bottom of the list.
Anyway, I threw out all the ties and came up with a list of the Top Races according to Win Percentage:
Race --- Wins per 100 Losses
1. Chaos Dwarves --- 138
2. Amazons --- 131
3. Undead --- 122
4. Skaven --- 118
5. Wood Elves --- 115
6. Elves --- 115
7. Dwarves --- 111
8. Lizard Men --- 108
9. Khemri --- 100
10. Dark Elves --- 98
11. Necromantic --- 98
12. Orcs --- 97
13. High Elves --- 95
14. Humans --- 91
15. Nurgle's Rotters --- 88
16. Norse --- 84
17. Chaos --- 80
[18. Goblins --- 75]
[19. Halflings --- 50]
Obviously this is not the end-all be-all list of Best Teams in Blood Bowl, especially for those who prefer casualties to scoring! 
But I guess it's about as close as we can reasonably guesstimate.
Besides, who would have guessed that Khemri are the most balanced team in Blood Bowl?!?!? 
Link: http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=stats&op=race |
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MrMojo
Joined: Apr 17, 2004
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Jul 14, 2004 - 22:44 |
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This just goes to show that CD is by far the best race. |
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BadMrMojo
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jul 14, 2004 - 22:51 |
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| MrMojo wrote: | | This just goes to show that CD is by far the best race. |
... at TR 100. You 'forgot' that part.
Remember, Christer has said that the average # of games / team is about 5 or 6 in spite of the 300+TR teams that blow the curve. These results are skewed by low TR games (which is why amazons are ranked so highly as well).
Yes, they progress well with a few skills on the bulls and some more guard on the CDs, but their primary ball carriers are all just 6337 and you see a lot of front-loaded CD teams.
{ edit: wow. that was eerily close to quoting your own post... creepy. } |
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Doowa
Joined: Nov 25, 2003
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Jul 14, 2004 - 22:55 |
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As MrMojo, I'm not really surprised that CD is at the top. The Zon part does thou, as well as chaos being at the bottom. I'm pretty sure the reason for this is that ppl tent to pick bashy skills whenever it's possible. It might be fun, but you don't win more IMHO. Rotters aren't on the list? I can't find the list on the Stats pages. Link pls? 
Edit: just saw BadMrMojo's post... guess that does take the surprise element away more or less. With both zons and chaos  |
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Ansbach
Joined: Jul 12, 2004
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Jul 14, 2004 - 23:12 |
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That makes more sense knowing that this is heavily weighted by the low TR teams. Too bad there aren't filters. But for me that also adds to the suprise of Orcs being so low, and especially Norse! I would have guessed Norse were the opposite - they start out strong with block, cheap/skill players, etc. and then fizzle out later on as the AV-7 catches up with them... |
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Ash
Joined: Feb 03, 2004
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Jul 14, 2004 - 23:43 |
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To make representative stats you must exclude the game between same race...
Next, this kind of stats is never representative about roster efficiency cause of game filtering... not hard for amazon to have such score if amazon coaches refuse game soon as opponement have 2 tackles... |
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Kenty
Joined: Dec 24, 2003
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Jul 15, 2004 - 00:46 |
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Chaos are low because once they get strong enough to win... they are usually so loaded with claw/rsf that nobody will play against them. So they lose until they are strong and then sit idle waiting for someone who doesn't know any better to put his guys out there against 2 dps and 3 claw/rsf gits. |
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BunnyPuncher
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jul 15, 2004 - 04:24 |
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Orcs get hosed because every noob picks them for their first team. Mainly because when they ask for advice thats what most people tend to recommend |
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MrMojo
Joined: Apr 17, 2004
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Jul 15, 2004 - 11:13 |
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Indeed. I forgot "that" part, but on the whole they (CD) are one of the, let's say, overpowered teams. With dwarf blockers and bulls and a big guy, and ag 3 hogoblins, they are pretty flexible. They can handle the ball and bash a lot. that's my 2 cents (euro cents) |
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MrMojo
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Jul 15, 2004 - 11:13 |
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hogoblins.... ain't it funny |
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Grod
Joined: Sep 30, 2003
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Jul 15, 2004 - 11:53 |
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One thing that may affect chaos dwarves is that generally the more experience fumbbl coaches are likely to pick them. In the tabletop game due to the lack of figures available for the team, few people play CDs. Probably newbies to fumbbl then stay away from them until they have tried a few teams first???
It is the opposite of BunnyPunchers comment for Orcs: they are hosed because newbies tend to pick them (as well as humans). |
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Hecropolix
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jul 15, 2004 - 12:06 |
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75% win percentage with goblins, most people who try them must have no idea what they are doing. |
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BunnyPuncher
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jul 15, 2004 - 13:30 |
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Based on my experience... goblins of equal TR/TS kick the crap out of Elf teams of all flavors. |
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Kommando
Joined: Dec 08, 2003
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Jul 15, 2004 - 13:55 |
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great, an elf team with equal TS already has 1/3 of its players missing |
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Carl_Stoneyard
Joined: Nov 14, 2003
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Jul 15, 2004 - 20:02 |
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The low win % for humans are also because of the large amount of newbies that play them. Humans actually have one of the best starting rosters. |
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