Cyrus-Havoc
Joined: Sep 15, 2006
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Jan 28, 2011 - 17:45 |
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Loner is new skill that gives you a 50-50 chance to use a re-roll. If you fail a re-roll token is used but you don’t get the chance to actually make a re-roll. It appears a lot in the new FFB client with big guys and journeymen.
I had not given too much thought to this until now but I had noticed what seemed to be a high number of re-rolls that came up with exactly the same roll as before the re-roll.
What of course is happening is the Loner roll is failed and so the same result is being repeated for you too choose from.
Now I tend to forget I have loners on the team so it is my fault for taking an action and for choosing to use a re-roll with them but I am sure I am not the only one who does it.
Recently in chat there seems to have been a lot of talk about dice luck being worse or more extreme than in JBB and I wonder if this may be the root cause.
In a tabletop game this would not be a problem but on Fumbbl the automation can make us careless. I am not sure anything needs to be changed or indeed should be changed but if you think you have bad dice it might just be because of this.
Anyway what do you think? |
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Cribbleobblepie
Joined: Dec 15, 2006
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Jan 28, 2011 - 17:52 |
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Use 'Shift + Right Mouse click' to mark the Loner players. That way you can't ever get it wrong. Easy stuff. |
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Arktoris
Joined: Feb 16, 2004
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Jan 28, 2011 - 17:56 |
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I think the problem he's bringing up is that the ffb client is not generating a new random number for the reroll roll, but recycling the last roll. |
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Cyrus-Havoc
Joined: Sep 15, 2006
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Jan 28, 2011 - 18:05 |
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Yes shift right click is great and will help!
And yes recycled rolls makes it look as if you rolled double skulls for a second time. |
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On1
Joined: Jul 12, 2004
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Jan 28, 2011 - 18:06 |
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No Arktoris.
He is talking about how it looks, that the client is focusing more on the old roll, than on the failed loner roll. |
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Cyrus-Havoc
Joined: Sep 15, 2006
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Jan 28, 2011 - 18:08 |
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On1 wrote: | No Arktoris.
He is talking about how it looks, that the client is focusing more on the old roll, than on the failed loner roll. |
This is also true. |
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Mr_Foulscumm
Joined: Mar 05, 2005
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Jan 28, 2011 - 18:10 |
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Awww and here I thought it might have been the first new RNG worse than old RNG thread
/me puts the popcorn away |
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Nightbird
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jan 28, 2011 - 18:23 |
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PIE! |
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maysrill
Joined: Dec 29, 2008
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Jan 28, 2011 - 18:44 |
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Opportunity for a fun new sound: failed Loner roll!
"Huh, wazzat coach?"
"Um, I don't know that play"
"Err, what?"
"Trust me, I know what I'm doing"
or the simple "D'oh!" |
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DukeTyrion
Joined: Feb 18, 2004
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Jan 28, 2011 - 18:55 |
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maysrill wrote: | Opportunity for a fun new sound: failed Loner roll!
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I like that idea ... how about "Oooooops!" |
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Arktoris
Joined: Feb 16, 2004
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Jan 28, 2011 - 19:28 |
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DukeTyrion wrote: | maysrill wrote: | Opportunity for a fun new sound: failed Loner roll!
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I like that idea ... how about "Oooooops!" |
or "sorry, that duty's not in my contract." |
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Grod
Joined: Sep 30, 2003
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Jan 28, 2011 - 19:31 |
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There are much more pows rolled with the new client, than in Ski Junkies though, I noticed. |
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Mr_Foulscumm
Joined: Mar 05, 2005
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Jan 28, 2011 - 19:35 |
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"No, pay me first!" could also work
edit: although... that really doesn't work for all loners just the Journeymen. |
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maysrill
Joined: Dec 29, 2008
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Jan 28, 2011 - 19:41 |
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Mr_Foulscumm wrote: | "No, pay me first!" could also work
edit: although... that really doesn't work for all loners just the Journeymen. |
That's kinda why I tried to lean mine toward the "don't know the playbook" ones. That would apply equally to journeyman and big guys. |
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Lakrillo
Joined: Sep 12, 2007
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Jan 28, 2011 - 19:42 |
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It would be cool to have a specific icon for the journeyman. |
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