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Conceding: strategy or suckiness?
Sometimes you gotta pack it in and fight another day.
24%
 24%  [ 19 ]
Bleed to death if you have to, but stand your ground, dammit.
30%
 30%  [ 24 ]
You're here to have fun. If conceding means more future fun, concede!
44%
 44%  [ 35 ]
Total Votes : 78


torsoboy



Joined: Nov 23, 2004

Post   Posted: Sep 17, 2005 - 11:09 Reply with quote Back to top

I've conceded multiple times when dinner was ready. Now I don't play before dinner Smile

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JanMattys



Joined: Feb 29, 2004

Post   Posted: Sep 17, 2005 - 11:12 Reply with quote Back to top

Karlon wrote:
I conceded one because my rookie chaos team got pounded into the ground. I was winning 1-0, but my troll and 2 beasts niggled, one beast dead. You cant recover from that as a first game, so I told the guy i was going to retire the team and asked him whether he would prefer the natural victory or would prefer for me to concede (i totally wasnt enjoying the game, but i offered to play to the end), he chose concede.

Actually, this would be against the rules here in fumbbl... Rolling Eyes

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sk8bcn



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Post   Posted: Sep 17, 2005 - 11:16 Reply with quote Back to top

JanMattys wrote:
Karlon wrote:
I conceded one because my rookie chaos team got pounded into the ground. I was winning 1-0, but my troll and 2 beasts niggled, one beast dead. You cant recover from that as a first game, so I told the guy i was going to retire the team and asked him whether he would prefer the natural victory or would prefer for me to concede (i totally wasnt enjoying the game, but i offered to play to the end), he chose concede.

Actually, this would be against the rules here in fumbbl... Rolling Eyes


absolutely not

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JanMattys



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Post   Posted: Sep 17, 2005 - 11:44 Reply with quote Back to top

sk8bcn wrote:
JanMattys wrote:
Karlon wrote:
I conceded one because my rookie chaos team got pounded into the ground. I was winning 1-0, but my troll and 2 beasts niggled, one beast dead. You cant recover from that as a first game, so I told the guy i was going to retire the team and asked him whether he would prefer the natural victory or would prefer for me to concede (i totally wasnt enjoying the game, but i offered to play to the end), he chose concede.

Actually, this would be against the rules here in fumbbl... Rolling Eyes


absolutely not


From the Rules: Arranged games (ie. playing to lose) will not be tolerated. The same applies for coaches allowing each other to score extra touchdowns and all other SPP generating events.

If you are going to retire the team anyway, you should fight to death. Conceding is an spp-generating event, gives extra money, and should not be a present to your opponent.
This is how I read the rules. I might have a good reason to concede, but if I know I don't care about the team anymore and that this will be the last game, it is against the spirit of the aforementioned rule to concede to give away 5 spps and cash.

Of course this point of view is debatable, but I think the rules were created in this spirit. I might well be wrong, tho.

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MrMojo



Joined: Apr 17, 2004

Post   Posted: Sep 17, 2005 - 12:48 Reply with quote Back to top

JanMattys wrote:
Karlon wrote:
I conceded one because my rookie chaos team got pounded into the ground. I was winning 1-0, but my troll and 2 beasts niggled, one beast dead. You cant recover from that as a first game, so I told the guy i was going to retire the team and asked him whether he would prefer the natural victory or would prefer for me to concede (i totally wasnt enjoying the game, but i offered to play to the end), he chose concede.

Actually, this would be against the rules here in fumbbl... Rolling Eyes


Sure is.

And I say bleed to death! Never surrender, never compromise! Not even in the face of armageddon!

I'm with rorschach, if any of you know what I'm talking about.

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MrMojo



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Post   Posted: Sep 17, 2005 - 12:49 Reply with quote Back to top

torsoboy wrote:
I've conceded multiple times when dinner was ready. Now I don't play before dinner Smile


Is your momma doing the cooking or what? grown men can make their own dinners, if you ask me.

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xlars



Joined: May 12, 2004

Post   Posted: Sep 17, 2005 - 13:10 Reply with quote Back to top

Never give up, never surrender! Galaxy Quest style Smile
By the Hammer of Grabthar, they shall be avenged!!!
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Gran



Joined: Jul 07, 2005

Post   Posted: Sep 17, 2005 - 13:26 Reply with quote Back to top

MrMojo wrote:
I'm with rorschach, if any of you know what I'm talking about.


You want your opponents players to end up looking like one of his pictures? Laughing

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Eddy



Joined: Aug 04, 2004

Post   Posted: Sep 17, 2005 - 13:38 Reply with quote Back to top

@Jan
if concceding fell in the category you're describing, it wouldn't be an available option in the client, or wouldn't be authorized here at fumbbl. conceding is perfectly fine.

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sk8bcn



Joined: Apr 13, 2004

Post   Posted: Sep 17, 2005 - 16:22 Reply with quote Back to top

JanMattys wrote:
sk8bcn wrote:
JanMattys wrote:
Karlon wrote:
I conceded one because my rookie chaos team got pounded into the ground. I was winning 1-0, but my troll and 2 beasts niggled, one beast dead. You cant recover from that as a first game, so I told the guy i was going to retire the team and asked him whether he would prefer the natural victory or would prefer for me to concede (i totally wasnt enjoying the game, but i offered to play to the end), he chose concede.

Actually, this would be against the rules here in fumbbl... Rolling Eyes


absolutely not


From the Rules: Arranged games (ie. playing to lose) will not be tolerated. The same applies for coaches allowing each other to score extra touchdowns and all other SPP generating events.


The same applies for coaches allowing each other to score extra touchdowns and all other SPP generating events.

For me there is a big difference in:

ok I am fed up with that team. They are retired and I give you the win: it's no cheating. You are not saying your opponent:
"ok man, I score on this and you there next turn."

And the game was not arranged too. The decision to retire the team and give the game up was taken during the game, according to the game.


Other exemple: You play woodies but your opponent is an Emu member.

Turn 5 half 1 you win 2-0 but you already have used apo and suffer 2 kills. deciding to give up is no cheating! it's a choice.

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nin



Joined: May 27, 2005

Post   Posted: Sep 17, 2005 - 18:17 Reply with quote Back to top

Other example: you are playing EMU Dwarfs against woodies, turn 5 half 1 youwin 2-0 but you already have used apo and sufer 2 kills. Conceding and posting such a match in Bunypuncher's report thread is something you can add to your signature proudly Twisted Evil
Also, if you really have to quit and don't know when you can play the rest of the game, conceding seems polite.
...and conceding, or retiring a team is usually hard enougth.
...and 2 touch or 3 cas are more spp than 1 MVP, so who knows if your oponent has any benefit if you concede...
keggiemckill



Joined: Oct 07, 2004

Post   Posted: Sep 17, 2005 - 18:29 Reply with quote Back to top

Im going down with the ship. I had a team receive 6 SIs on thier first game. I had 2 guys on the pitch, and he still didnt score that 5th TD. Theres no way Im letting a guy take my MVP, and my money! He can get his own. I got mine the hard way, so can he.

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