Lokky
Joined: Sep 19, 2007
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Nov 17, 2010 - 20:09 |
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I was messing around in test mode and I noticed that shadowing isn't working when an opponent leaves the player's tackle zone while following up a block.
Now I understand that this is how it worked in the old client as well, but somebody pointed out that tentacle doesn't work on follow ups either so why should shadowing.
That got me thinking and, after a quick look at the rules, I realized that tentacle explicitly says it works only when players attempt to dodge or leap out of the tackle zone, while the wording of shadowing states that it works "When a player performing an action on the opposing team moves out of any of his tackle zones [the player's] for any reason."
Since blocking or blitzing and the subsequent follow up are part of an action, as they can only be performed by the active player, doesn't this mean that shadowing should work on follow ups? |
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f_alk
Joined: Sep 30, 2005
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Nov 17, 2010 - 20:12 |
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yes, and there was a long thread about it somewhere. |
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Carnis
Joined: Feb 03, 2009
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Nov 17, 2010 - 20:16 |
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as far as I recall it should indeed work while any player leaves the tacklezone, you should file a bugreport. It will be messy to code.. |
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Lokky
Joined: Sep 19, 2007
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Nov 17, 2010 - 20:21 |
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Alright I'll check the bug reports and look for that thread when I get a minute.
The only thing that bothers me about it is that according to the wording is should work with leap, but that opens up so many obvious problems. |
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Skolopender
Joined: Jun 17, 2006
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Nov 17, 2010 - 20:31 |
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Is this a thread about over eating? |
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WhatBall
Joined: Aug 21, 2008
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Nov 17, 2010 - 20:59 |
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Lokky wrote: | Alright I'll check the bug reports and look for that thread when I get a minute.
The only thing that bothers me about it is that according to the wording is should work with leap, but that opens up so many obvious problems. |
I now have mental image of some crazed Elf hanging on to the leg of a leaping Slann.
I can't see how shadowing could work with leap as the Shadowing player would typically end up in a square occupied by the payer being jumped over. |
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Carnis
Joined: Feb 03, 2009
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Nov 17, 2010 - 21:00 |
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Lokky wrote: | Alright I'll check the bug reports and look for that thread when I get a minute.
The only thing that bothers me about it is that according to the wording is should work with leap, but that opens up so many obvious problems. |
Like what? The shadower shadows to the square, from which the leaper left.. The leaper will then be far gone anyways.. |
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Frankenstein
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nov 17, 2010 - 21:18 |
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Wreckage
Joined: Aug 15, 2004
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Nov 17, 2010 - 21:25 |
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Carnis wrote: | Lokky wrote: | Alright I'll check the bug reports and look for that thread when I get a minute.
The only thing that bothers me about it is that according to the wording is should work with leap, but that opens up so many obvious problems. |
Like what? The shadower shadows to the square, from which the leaper left.. The leaper will then be far gone anyways.. |
Hmm... but the wording states, that he has to move out. Id argue then that a follow up is a move and leap is not. It is a jump over two squares. It's not rock solid but I wouldn't know how else to interpret it. Moving the shadower two squares or into another player seems wrong. |
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Lakrillo
Joined: Sep 12, 2007
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Nov 17, 2010 - 21:52 |
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Wreckage wrote: | Carnis wrote: | Lokky wrote: | Alright I'll check the bug reports and look for that thread when I get a minute.
The only thing that bothers me about it is that according to the wording is should work with leap, but that opens up so many obvious problems. |
Like what? The shadower shadows to the square, from which the leaper left.. The leaper will then be far gone anyways.. |
Hmm... but the wording states, that he has to move out. Id argue then that a follow up is a move and leap is not. It is a jump over two squares. It's not rock solid but I wouldn't know how else to interpret it. Moving the shadower two squares or into another player seems wrong. |
Shadower have to be close to the player that moves, and he moves into the square that the player just left. no problems at all. |
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RC
Joined: Sep 22, 2005
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Nov 17, 2010 - 22:04 |
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Sooo, how would a shadoeing tentacle player do
Fail tents , pass shadowing, gets to try tents at the next square? |
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asharak
Joined: Nov 27, 2007
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Nov 17, 2010 - 22:05 |
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If a guy with shadowing also has leap... |
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Lokky
Joined: Sep 19, 2007
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Nov 17, 2010 - 22:13 |
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