Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Oct 18, 2012 - 16:01 |
 
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| Nelphine wrote: | 'pure bash teams don't get wrestle' is nonsense. A pure bash team will take DP, and having DP en masse means take wrestle!
That being said, amazons probably won't have much DP. |
I don't think I have seen any chaos teams with a wrestle player before tbh. I'm sure there will be some. But I don't see the benefit, it just makes them really vulnerable to blitzes and the pure bash teams of this edition are fairly squishy too. I also don't get the wrestle DP thing either, I would never want my DP player to have two skills either, seems a total waste of TV to me in this edition. |
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noobie2k7
Joined: Sep 28, 2012
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Oct 18, 2012 - 16:30 |
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you don't put DP on the wrestle player O_O You have the wrestle player to put people on the ground for your DP player to go stamp on.
and i;ve seen a chaos and orc team with a wrestle player. . . Given they were on the ball sackers so it's pretty standard. |
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licker
Joined: Jul 10, 2009
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Oct 18, 2012 - 16:32 |
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BASH teams are different from CLAWPOMB teams.
BASH teams like orcs or dwarves or lizards or norse(??) or undead of any variety do indeed need dp and wrestle can help make it click. Taking wrestle on your dp players is often the best idea if you wind up getting them to 16spp and are not so lame as to retire them at that point.
Wrestle on your dp does 2 things.
1) If you are blocked with a both down, now you have a target right next to you to stand up and foul.
2) If you are marked, and they block you, a both down means you are still marked if you have block. If you have wrestle, you are no longer marked unless they put/leave a 2nd player there (that's a positional win!). Granted zombs and skeles are not that quick when standing up from wrestle, but it's still a chance to move somewhere without dodging on a 4+, even if you need 2 gfis to get where you want to be.
3) Rotters are great to take wrestle on!
4) zombs are even greater to take wrestle on!
5) none of those guys ever get dodge anyway  |
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noobie2k7
Joined: Sep 28, 2012
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Oct 18, 2012 - 16:34 |
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ah, Licker just made me look like a fool! XD Least i now know why you;d take DP and wrestle on the same player. I just looked at it from an offensive stand point.not on a standpoint set up during an Opp's turn  |
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harvestmouse
Joined: May 13, 2007
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Oct 18, 2012 - 16:45 |
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Wouldn't fend do a similar job, but better? |
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PainState
Joined: Apr 04, 2007
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Oct 18, 2012 - 16:48 |
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A lot of focus on the bash side of the game here. The flip side of the coin are the elf's. They hate wrodge with a passion, it is the best counter against blodge and once you get some tackle thrown in, well now you got some home cooking going on. |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Oct 18, 2012 - 17:01 |
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out of interest has anyone tried a Wrestle heavy Orc team yet?
| licker wrote: |
BASH teams like orcs or dwarves or lizards or norse(??) or undead of any variety do indeed need dp and wrestle can help make it click. |
Personally I dont like Wrestle on any of those teams really. One wrestle ghoul sounds like a good idea on undead and one wrestle lino for orcs, a wrestle dauntless skink for lizards is obviously amazing. Though would still only take one wrestle if i got the doubles.
Dwarves I don't think I would bother with wrestle until high TV. in which case I would double up on a runner with wrestle and block. Generally I wouldn't like wrestle on any low Ma players it just increases the chance of putting your self down in your own turn and with low Ma standing players and positioning is of absolute importance. While elves can get away with poor positioning and a lot of prone players to certain extent. |
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dfunkateer
Joined: Dec 17, 2008
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Oct 18, 2012 - 17:06 |
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| Nelphine wrote: | | amazons probably won't have much DP. |
Giggidy giggidy |
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noobie2k7
Joined: Sep 28, 2012
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Oct 18, 2012 - 17:10 |
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| dfunkateer wrote: | | Nelphine wrote: | | amazons probably won't have much DP. |
Giggidy giggidy |
oh god i totally missed that one! |
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Hitonagashi
Joined: Apr 09, 2006
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Oct 18, 2012 - 17:20 |
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| licker wrote: | BASH teams are different from CLAWPOMB teams.
BASH teams like orcs or dwarves or lizards or norse(??) or undead of any variety do indeed need dp and wrestle can help make it click. Taking wrestle on your dp players is often the best idea if you wind up getting them to 16spp and are not so lame as to retire them at that point.
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Merble?
Who do you take DP on on your Lizardman team? |
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noobie2k7
Joined: Sep 28, 2012
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Oct 18, 2012 - 17:24 |
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Yeah, on Lizards you can't really afford to have anyone sent off. . . |
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licker
Joined: Jul 10, 2009
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Oct 18, 2012 - 17:33 |
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So my lizard credentials are short...
However, I have seen lizard teams with a DP skink. Clearly Lizards are not going to load up on it, and W on sauri is probably not the best idea. I hesitated to add them to my list, but for completeness sake I put them there, feel free to add comments about them, even though this thread isn't about DP/W :p
re: fend...
Fend doesn't do a damn thing on both/down. I love wrestle and fend on skaven linemen though. Not the best option on elves as they can take dodge 1st or 2nd skill. |
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Overhamsteren
Joined: May 27, 2006
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Oct 18, 2012 - 17:36 |
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No one takes juggernaut because they know they wont face any wrestle or fend.  |
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Reisender
Joined: Sep 29, 2007
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Oct 18, 2012 - 18:32 |
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| Garion wrote: | | Nelphine wrote: | 'pure bash teams don't get wrestle' is nonsense. A pure bash team will take DP, and having DP en masse means take wrestle!
That being said, amazons probably won't have much DP. |
I don't think I have seen any chaos teams with a wrestle player before tbh. I'm sure there will be some. But I don't see the benefit, it just makes them really vulnerable to blitzes and the pure bash teams of this edition are fairly squishy too. I also don't get the wrestle DP thing either, I would never want my DP player to have two skills either, seems a total waste of TV to me in this edition. |
wrestle tackle two heads would be a standard sweeper of any chaos team, if there wasn´t the "make the most flexible Bbteam onedimensional"- clawpomb |
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Nelphine
Joined: Apr 01, 2011
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Oct 18, 2012 - 18:38 |
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DP TEAMS take wrestle; not the player.
So players 1, 2, 3 have DP, players 4, 5, 6 have wrestle |
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