Nightbird
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Feb 07, 2015 - 10:11 |
 
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0-4 wights... |
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albinv
Joined: Sep 15, 2012
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Feb 07, 2015 - 10:35 |
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| Nightbird wrote: | | 0-4 wights... |
Meaning you are of NB's opinion and your suggestion to fix would be allowing undead up to 4 non regen Wights?
I guess a lot of dedicated Undead coaches have thought about a 3-4 Wight undead Team in some form at some point.
Might turn out (pretty likely) theyd be much much stronger even in most matches. As lacking the additional ag3 players that at least can bring something to the pitch - better than av7 - is most probably why they havent catched up to their younger necro brothers yet.
Ofc this is just hypothetical, but would be interesting to play test - no matter the outcome - im sure id have a hell of fun with wights being my favourite players.
To end on topic: ofc regen works at every TV. And id say especially at higher TV, where the guard+mb spread and clawpomb teams are lurking for the undead - which at this point cant play it as rough anymore as the pure bashing teams. Not with clean methods at least. But if the boots swing jolly and the regen works, all is pretty stable in halloween town. |
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harvestmouse
Joined: May 13, 2007
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Feb 07, 2015 - 10:47 |
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No, he meant that Undead used to get 4 Wights and 'that' was broken or Undead have been nerfed enough.
https://fumbbl.com/p/team?team_id=25280
The problem isn't with regen, it's with borking the apo. Wasn't broke before, so why did it need breaking? |
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albinv
Joined: Sep 15, 2012
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Feb 07, 2015 - 10:55 |
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Thx for the explanation. Didnt get it due to my english then.
4 Wights must be way before my BB time then. Yeah, but not suprised at all it turned out it had to be nerfed.
Aye on the CRP apo. A bad CRP rule in general and slightly strengthens regen. |
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LucaAnt
Joined: Apr 24, 2006
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Feb 07, 2015 - 10:56 |
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| JimmyFantastic wrote: | | zakatan wrote: | | Cavetroll wrote: | | Regen teams pay for that ability with 70k rerolls. |
+ about 10k for every player |
20k with the bs formula. |
I THINK NOT! |
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delusional
Joined: Jan 18, 2013
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Feb 07, 2015 - 11:31 |
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I actually think the other mechanism is broken. Regen is fine, but why only 1 Apo for each team. Surely more dead are expected? So I am thinking something like this.
first APO: 2+
2nd apo: 3+
3rd apo: 4+
4th apo: 5+
5th apo: 6+
Each time you pay the same 50k in tv. My point is that vs undead it suddenly looks allot better. At the moment players are being taken out by clawPOMB slaughterhouses and we need something to counteract that. |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Feb 07, 2015 - 11:41 |
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| delusional wrote: | | At the moment players are being taken out by clawPOMB slaughterhouses and we need something to counteract that. |
The thing ppl need to counteract players taken out by clawpomb is.... BALLS! |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Feb 07, 2015 - 13:31 |
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| JimmyFantastic wrote: | | delusional wrote: | | At the moment players are being taken out by clawPOMB slaughterhouses and we need something to counteract that. |
The thing ppl need to counteract players taken out by clawpomb is.... BALLS! |
Don't be an idiot Jim. It's not balls if you are packing the CPOMB.
It's not even balls if you are not packing CPOMB.
If people want to do it they can do it. If they don't, they don't.
Don't pretend that you have balls because you can crush a weaker team with a more powerful team. |
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zakatan
Joined: May 17, 2008
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Feb 07, 2015 - 14:24 |
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The thing you need to counteract clawpomb is time. If you can play 3 games a day, it is fine if an odd games gets wasted by the clawpomb madness. In my case I can seldom play, and I don't want to increase the risk of a luck-driven one-sided game facing clawpomb teams.
Definitely, it's not a matter of manlyhood. |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Feb 07, 2015 - 14:49 |
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| koadah wrote: | | JimmyFantastic wrote: | | delusional wrote: | | At the moment players are being taken out by clawPOMB slaughterhouses and we need something to counteract that. |
The thing ppl need to counteract players taken out by clawpomb is.... BALLS! |
Don't be an idiot Jim. It's not balls if you are packing the CPOMB.
It's not even balls if you are not packing CPOMB.
If people want to do it they can do it. If they don't, they don't.
Don't pretend that you have balls because you can crush a weaker team with a more powerful team. |
Calm down there broski! I said what you need to counteract Cpomb is balls.
Balls like these! |
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Shakall
Joined: Feb 15, 2005
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Feb 07, 2015 - 15:04 |
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The standard player is a human lino, right? It got 6-3-3-8 for 50k so a zombie would be what wo regen? 4-3-2-8 is a seriously shiet player for 50k. Human blitzer 90k thats +1 ma or Orc blitzer +1 av, rules says thats worth 30k but atleast it's more then 10k. Mummies and TG's don't pay to much i guess since they're pretty cheap i reckon. Skeletons 40k for 5-3-2-7 (thick skull) dunno what would be a good price for it of you would drop regen. Pestigor is also 20k more then Beastman. |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Feb 07, 2015 - 15:17 |
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| Shakall wrote: | | The standard player is a human lino, right? It got 6-3-3-8 for 50k so a zombie would be what wo regen? 4-3-2-8 is a seriously shiet player for 50k. Human blitzer 90k thats +1 ma or Orc blitzer +1 av, rules says thats worth 30k but atleast it's more then 10k. Mummies and TG's don't pay to much i guess since they're pretty cheap i reckon. Skeletons 40k for 5-3-2-7 (thick skull) dunno what would be a good price for it of you would drop regen. Pestigor is also 20k more then Beastman. |
thats not how it works....
here is how players are created - https://fumbbl.com/help:CreateRoster |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Feb 07, 2015 - 15:26 |
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Woah 30k for regen. LOL. |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Feb 07, 2015 - 15:35 |
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| JimmyFantastic wrote: | | Woah 30k for regen. LOL. |
Yup, however you can also adjust 10k for balance which almost all regen players were. they all got their -10k, so you were basically right jimmy, 20k for regen is about right. |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Feb 07, 2015 - 16:06 |
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| JimmyFantastic wrote: | | koadah wrote: | | JimmyFantastic wrote: | | delusional wrote: | | At the moment players are being taken out by clawPOMB slaughterhouses and we need something to counteract that. |
The thing ppl need to counteract players taken out by clawpomb is.... BALLS! |
Don't be an idiot Jim. It's not balls if you are packing the CPOMB.
It's not even balls if you are not packing CPOMB.
If people want to do it they can do it. If they don't, they don't.
Don't pretend that you have balls because you can crush a weaker team with a more powerful team. |
Calm down there broski! I said what you need to counteract Cpomb is balls.
Balls like these! |
"Balls" must mean something different where you come from. |
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