| Poll |
| I don't expect a representative survey, however: |
| blood, Blood, BLOOD! |
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27% |
[ 145 ] |
| I only foul for tactical reasons because thats when I can get away with it |
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45% |
[ 242 ] |
| I fit the elf stereotype |
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12% |
[ 65 ] |
| Fouling makes me feel Manly (no gender offense intended) |
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7% |
[ 38 ] |
| I join Werewolf games to burn innocents FTW! |
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7% |
[ 38 ] |
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| Total Votes : 528 |
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DreadClaw
Joined: Nov 17, 2003
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Jun 12, 2007 - 16:33 |
 
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Groundblitzes are manly. t16 groundblitzes are for real men.
That and I'm playing to win, maim kill destroy...and win. So unless i got something more important to do, such as score, I'll gladly throw a boot in your face.
Not always, but when I feel like it, most definately. The more you know me, the more likely that boot will come too! |
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Purplegoo
Joined: Mar 23, 2006
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Jun 12, 2007 - 16:34 |
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I think context is important with this stuff. If it's a tournament, T16 fouling should be expected. If I'm playing a cool Undead/Necro coach and they haven't 'recruited' a player from me yet, I'll probably be shouting "FOUL" at them in T16! If the game is over and someone T16 RIP fouls you in an open environment... Who really cares <i>that much</i> anyway? It just gives you an excuse to kick ass in the rematch!
It does smack of being a bad loser (or I guess winner) a bit though. |
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Optihut
Joined: Dec 16, 2004
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Jun 12, 2007 - 16:34 |
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So if it's all about winning the game, why do people get upset, if someone, instead of scoring and thus getting the equalizer, fouls instead? After all, that turn 16 foul just won them the game, surely they should be happy at that, right? |
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PhrollikK
Joined: Nov 04, 2006
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Jun 12, 2007 - 16:36 |
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A great read pac! Was one thing missing imo: that on fouling valuable players to get them out of tournaments etc in the hopes that the team will do badly and indirectly influence your team in a positive way as in the next match against said team will be easier to win if they've gotten beat up in the games since your game due to having less players and so on. End ramble.
Fouling should always be done at the first opportunity that arises. There is no excuse. Rather you should have an excuse ready if you didn't foul  |
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Shrap
Joined: Sep 18, 2006
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Jun 12, 2007 - 17:22 |
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I have to say I found a MAJOR cherry picker today and I think that's a greater evil. |
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Frankie
Joined: Oct 15, 2003
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Jun 12, 2007 - 17:34 |
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The secret word for today is (not mudshark, but) ethics! For all the lawyer-wannabes out there.
And since my previous post didn't get any publicity, I off it here for all of your joy: Hurra Torpedo |
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Meech
Joined: Sep 15, 2005
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Jun 12, 2007 - 17:34 |
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3 pages and I feel like I went retarded. More than before... it is that bad. I t16 foul Prinz almost everytime we play because it is funny. I know that he will still be willing to play me again. It is funny to me that the coaches with the worst rep (deserved or not) on Fumbbl (Synn, DreadCloaw, Wuhan, PaulHicks, Plorg, Emphasy,Burnalot, your mom) easily get games. I wonder how that happened?
@Shrap: Cherry picking is against the rules, make sure you fill out a support ticket.  |
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JanMattys
Joined: Feb 29, 2004
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Jun 12, 2007 - 17:43 |
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Only decent reasons to T16 fouling:
1- To prevent opponent from scoring the winning td
2- To have a chance to score the tie/win td
3- To get the second casualty and the +1 to FF roll
4- If you play a friend and you know it's likable for both a good bloodbath
5- Your opponent acted like a total ass during the game, spoiling YOUR fun. Then you should feel compelled to give him back a bit of his own medicine.
All other T16 fouls give you nothing but seriously risk to piss off your opponent. Which means you are ready to have amusement at the expenses of an opponent who is likely not to like the way you would get it. And that's something I don't like, because in the end it's all about having fun together. Note: you are right if you say "but my opponent is wrong if he's sad because of his pixels dying, and I'm trying to train him into the proper way of having fun", but it's a pretty lame excuse to mask the fact that you don't really give a damn about your opponent's feelings, and you think only yours are the right ones. Which is, incidentally, wrong.
...And then there's those who T16 foul just out of spite. They are as lame as high TR woodelves with two MA11 surefeet sprint oneturners.
My 2 pence.
edit: I'm talking about open situations like Ranked, of course. All is fair in love and Leagues... |
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JockMcRowdy
Joined: Jul 07, 2004
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Jun 12, 2007 - 17:47 |
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i dont really care about t16 foulers, its the ones that are losing and instead of trying to get some spps or score to make it more respectable they just gang foul your guys instead. If fouling was your strategy all along then waaheeyy but if you change your tactics to simply main because your losing, well, that makes you a tosser. 
Although as has been mentioned before, tournaments and leagues are different |
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quickie
Joined: Jul 19, 2004
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Jun 12, 2007 - 17:48 |
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| JanMattys wrote: |
4- If you play a friend and you know it's likable for both a good bloodbath
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yeah i would stop talking to any of my good old stunty-friends if they stop fouling me in T16!  |
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Shrap
Joined: Sep 18, 2006
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Jun 12, 2007 - 17:51 |
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Is it really against the rules?
How would you prove it?
I think that if you saw this guys team stats you couldn't not think he wasn't a cherry picker.
He ALWAYS plays up TS and by quite a lot if he can get away with it.
I'd throw this guy under the bus is a second. |
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Meech
Joined: Sep 15, 2005
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Jun 12, 2007 - 17:55 |
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| The Rules as set forth by Lord Christer, King of Fumbblania wrote: | | Coaches are expected to play reasonably balanced games. Play against lower rated teams is allowed, but should not be abused. It is understood that sometimes teams need a recovery game against a lower ranked team after a particuarly bloody game, but excessive play against lower ranked teams creates an unfair advantage and will not be tolerated. |
I have yet to see that rule enforced, although I did see Shadow get banned from #fumbbl for pointing out someone that was Cherrypicking |
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tneva82
Joined: Jul 17, 2004
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Jun 12, 2007 - 17:57 |
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| SillySod wrote: | | 1. Less turn 16 fouls means less injury to other team. That's only beneficial to you if it stops the other guy fouling you, a nicey, nicey agreement not to play properly. |
And outside leagues what the heck GOOD does T16 foul do? NOTHING! YOU don't benefit from it. All it does aim is cripple opponents team with no drawback, no danger and for no benefit of your own team.
Doesn't help you to win the game. Doesn't give you SPP. Nothing, zip, nada, zero.
Completely useless act of spite. |
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Shrap
Joined: Sep 18, 2006
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Jun 12, 2007 - 17:58 |
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Well if that was enforced this guy would be history if someone reported him. |
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Shrap
Joined: Sep 18, 2006
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Jun 12, 2007 - 17:59 |
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untrue tneva82 it counts towards your FF roll...if you have only one cas you should T16 foul. |
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