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White Isle League Stunty (WILIES) will be... |
the best league ever |
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9% |
[ 9 ] |
awesome funness to the max |
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21% |
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crappy |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
unpredictable and strange |
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11% |
[ 11 ] |
batman |
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12% |
[ 12 ] |
pie / cake / macavity |
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12% |
[ 12 ] |
run by morons |
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32% |
[ 32 ] |
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Total Votes : 97 |
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JockMcRowdy
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Joined: Jul 07, 2004
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Aug 03, 2008 - 23:53 |
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not sure on a mega icon pack, but we should get one for sure.
some minor changes to goblin and halflling teams;*
# Goblin - may not hire a non goblin star [C]
# Halfling - Can only purchase 1 set of ingredients per game [P]
as robbing strigs and squigs of all their re rolls is just mean and hiring morgnthorg is clearly cheating.
EDIT *Pending consultation with fellow admins. |
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SillySod
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Joined: Oct 10, 2006
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Aug 04, 2008 - 00:01 |
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Nice changes, just noticed that the flings and gobbos are in.... and some team called "Old School Skink", is that a lizarman team with no saurus? If so then please ban them hiring that saurus star ![Razz](./modules/PNphpBB2/images/smiles/icon_razz.gif) |
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DukeTyrion
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Joined: Feb 18, 2004
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Aug 04, 2008 - 00:01 |
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JockMcRowdy wrote: |
# Goblin - may not hire a non goblin star [C]
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If Ripper is included in that, then I presume you are also banning Deeproot? |
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SillySod
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Joined: Oct 10, 2006
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Aug 04, 2008 - 00:10 |
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Ah, just found the answer to my question but also noticed this:
Quote: | # Chaos Halfling - must pay double to hire logan, as in have the cash in the bank and burn it through coaches/cheerleaders. [C]
# Eshin Adepts - 0-2 Night Runners, team must have 11 players in order to hire an Assassin, so keep you team alive, its not a 1 man team..honest. [P]
# Fairies - No restrictions [P]
# Forest Goblin - No restrictions [C]
# Gnome - 0-2 Bommaz. May only start with 1 Daredevil [S]
# Gnoblar - 0-2 Trappers to start [C]
# Goblin - may not hire a non goblin star [C]
# Goblin Cheaters - 0-1 Kicker, Bomber and Chainsaw to start [S]
# Halfling - Can only purchase 1 set of ingredients per game [P]
#Horrors - No restrictions [S]
# Nurglings - 0-1 Beast to start [S]
# Skink - No restrictions [P]
# Skryre Slaves - 0-1 Mechavermin [S]
# Snotling - No restrictions [S]
# Pygmy - No restrictions [P]
# Squig Herders - 0-1 Hoppers, 0-3 Squigs to start [C]
# Strigoyan - No restrictions [C]
# Old School Skink - 12 skinks and 1 saurus available Cannot hire siibili [P]
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.... are all those restrictions really necessary and does everyone know about them? Shouldnt the School Skinks have a krox instead? Also I cant tell whether the 0-1 hopper is a starting restriction or a permanent one (and why restrict normal squigs on the starting team, seems like restricting vampires).
Sorry to prod and pry but I was genuinely suprised. |
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Scattarat
Joined: Jul 13, 2008
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  Posted:
Aug 04, 2008 - 00:12 |
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Is the new division for new stunty teams?... whats the max TR? |
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JockMcRowdy
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Joined: Jul 07, 2004
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  Posted:
Aug 04, 2008 - 00:36 |
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OK.
Duke, just changed my post, ill talk with Zombificus and Ludo and see what we agree upon.
Sillysod, I did put a link and said 'check the restrictions' in my messages and started the thread with;
'We welcome you to participate, check the link above for brief details. It will run in the same format as the White Isle league, only with stunty races instead of the normal boring ones. We have thought up a few race restrictions to try and balance it out a little, these will change as we progress. '
Krox was seen as too powerful, the old school skink has better skinks than the 'skink' team and one of the best bigger guys, but will suffer from lack of players I would imagine, Zomb is the only taker so far so we will edit/ remove them should they not work out.
The '0-1 Hoppers, 0-3 Squigs to start' are both on the starting roster, I have seen a few front loaded squig teams decimate other stunty teams most people wouldnt front load them anyway but it just prevents that, again the rules/restrictions are intended to be fluid, if we play a few games/seasons and a team is too weak or too strong we will attempt to balance it out.
Scatterat, this is a spinoff of the White Isle League and will run with mostly the same format but with stunty teams. It is just beginning so new/rookie 'L' League stunty teams. |
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DukeTyrion
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Joined: Feb 18, 2004
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Aug 04, 2008 - 01:36 |
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Just a thought, but, one of the great things about the White Isle league is that the members got to vote on some of the major rules decisions.
Is that likely to be the same in the Stunty version, or will it just be decided on by the admins?
Also, whatever rules are agreed, it would be nice if they were fully agreed before the league begins, as changes half way through tend to be somewhat disruptive.
Thanks |
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Ludovicious
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Joined: May 08, 2005
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  Posted:
Aug 04, 2008 - 01:45 |
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Word Up people!
I should inform you guys that im also admin staff of WISD.
Have been busy up til now... however, if you need clearing up on things... please kick me or whatever
...and Please, hurry those applications in!
That it for now... |
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JockMcRowdy
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Joined: Jul 07, 2004
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  Posted:
Aug 04, 2008 - 01:50 |
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yes, i would imagine as we progress, anyone playing will get a say on changes, especially as their teams will be affected.
You prompted me to run through everything proposed in fine detail with Ludovicious and Zombificus so we are clear before we start.
Still planning on closing applications this coming saturday, we have 25 plus us 3 admins for 28 players so far, ludo and zomb will decide upon first season format depending on the final numbers.
Likely (at the moment) to be the same as White Isle Season 1 with randomly assigned divisions and then a playoff between the leaders of each divisions for the 1st season crown. |
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Purplegoo
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Joined: Mar 23, 2006
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  Posted:
Aug 04, 2008 - 08:53 |
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Just a note on the restrictions; the guys decided that they wanted to at least try to even the rosters up (if only a bit, those of you that play [S]tunty will know the issues therein with certain races), so that everyone had good fun and a chance, and no-one spent an hour (for instance) on the end of a one-way Eshin stabby yawnaton. Now in that process, there are always going to be bits and pieces that people will want tweaking or won't agree with, I think it's best atm to just accept what they've come up with and start, if nothing else just to get going and not tread water with lengthy discussion that we'll not all agree on anyway (this could be likened to redrawing R/P/S/Dynamite brackets in the main league - we'd never agree on who goes where, and there’s no real need anyway). I say let's get going with what we have, and the chaps can always tweak after Season 1 if they feel the need, and at this point I'm sure they'd appreciate input. |
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DukeTyrion
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Joined: Feb 18, 2004
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  Posted:
Aug 04, 2008 - 10:06 |
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Well, the only specific input I have at the moment is that Deeproot and Ripper should be treated in the same light.
I can see that Ripper can make the Stunty roster too powerful in the stunty enviroment, but exactly the same can be said of Deeproot in teh Halfling roster.
As far as I am aware, they are the only 2 rosters that can hire a BG star. |
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zombificus
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Joined: Oct 09, 2006
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  Posted:
Aug 04, 2008 - 10:12 |
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Hello everyone, I wanted the opportunity to welcome y'all to this league. It's all gonna be stunty style fun with uber weaponz and death so join if you can!
I was quite suprised myself when I saw the extent of the restrictions that Jock came up with, but after looking through all the changes I think he's done some really good work and did not hesitate to offer my support to the proposals, with the caveat that things are open to change as we proceed. The only way we will be able to iron out problems is by seeing the results of the changes we have made, i.e. by playing, and of course we will welcome your opinions in the process.
It will also be easier to remove restictions than to impose them once the league is in full swing so I don't mind if we have overdone it a bit at this stage.
Have fun people and don't hesitate to contact one of the admins if you have any problems/questions related to WILIES.
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DukeTyrion
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Joined: Feb 18, 2004
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  Posted:
Aug 04, 2008 - 11:37 |
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JockMcRowdy wrote: | The '0-1 Hoppers, 0-3 Squigs to start' are both on the starting roster, I have seen a few front loaded squig teams decimate other stunty teams most people wouldnt front load them anyway but it just prevents that, again the rules/restrictions are intended to be fluid, if we play a few games/seasons and a team is too weak or too strong we will attempt to balance it out. |
Not that it matters, but might have been better to go with 0-4 (Hoppers & Squigs), as one of the better starting rosters for Squigs is 2 Hoppers and plenty of Herders, with normal Squigs being added over time.
Anyway, just trying to give some input, let me know if it is not warranted, or wanted.
Thanks |
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Robbo44
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Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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  Posted:
Aug 04, 2008 - 12:06 |
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JockMcRowdy wrote: | # Halfling - Can only purchase 1 set of ingredients per game [P]
as robbing strigs and squigs of all their re rolls is just mean. |
DukeTyrion wrote: | Well, the only specific input I have at the moment is that Deeproot and Ripper should be treated in the same light.
I can see that Ripper can make the Stunty roster too powerful in the stunty enviroment, but exactly the same can be said of Deeproot in teh Halfling roster.
As far as I am aware, they are the only 2 rosters that can hire a BG star. |
I'm not very knowledgeable on stunty, but it seems everyone wants to restrict my team, the only star I can hire is Deeproot and I can't get a wizzie, just the chef which you are going to limit, are Flings that overpowered in stunty? Are Flings the stunty equivalent of Dorfs or Zons?
I can agree with Jock's limiting of Chef's ingredients but no star as well, I get the feeling you all have it in for the diminutive pink ones. ![Smile](./modules/PNphpBB2/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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PhrollikK
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Joined: Nov 04, 2006
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  Posted:
Aug 04, 2008 - 12:36 |
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Dunno if restrictions are necessary in that the teams have been classed into different categories and so will only play certain teams. But hey whatever is decided I'm go for that. Oh and will there be TR restrictions etc. later? |
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