CircularLogic
Joined: Aug 22, 2003
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Oct 29, 2009 - 11:19 |
 
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Averaging is usually favoring specialists the most. Besides with the top rusher being somewhere in the ninehundreds others just cannot have that many MVP TDs ect.
So the minimum approach is the best, as it forces people to be good in everything. I`m just not convinced, that we really need such a record, involving rushing, passing in combination with completitions. Because then the next coach has a player that rushes alot and has a lot of cas, combining those for a record etc. |
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DukeTyrion
Joined: Feb 18, 2004
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Oct 29, 2009 - 11:26 |
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Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Oct 29, 2009 - 12:04 |
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CircularLogic
Joined: Aug 22, 2003
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Oct 29, 2009 - 14:20 |
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If records including passing/rushing are integrated, then there should be a fixed conversion. It makes little sense, if the QB record divides rushing by 5, while the other record divides it by 50. If such records are incorporated, then one division factor for all. Looking at the usual plays, the ball either has to be rushed, which gives around 15 squares per TD or passed, which gives around 5 squares of passing on average.
From that, the best quarterback would have go for min[comp;Passing/5; Rushing/15) and the violent runner going for min[cas;rushing/15]. |
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Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Oct 29, 2009 - 15:01 |
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valid points.
no doubt, the 5 and 50 were taken a bit out of thin air.
however, i think different conversion numbers for the same stat can be positive.
why?
because the stat is relative to what it gets compared with. rushing compared with casualties, might need to be treated differently then when compared with completions and passing.
therefore i also agree with you about rush vs. pass comparison, and that they shouldnt be compared directly too eachother. ie. pass/5 & rush/15 might be a good differential.
about the 5 and 50 though:
i found that with a pass+rush/5, it seems we have quarterbacks who have their lowest number very close to each other in all three of the stats.
with a rush/50, you see that the 1st violent runner has the lowest number in casualties, while player number 2 has his lowest number in rush/50. with 50 you ensure that the runner must have run a helluva lot - ie. he is a designated ball carrier. |
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CircularLogic
Joined: Aug 22, 2003
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Oct 29, 2009 - 15:56 |
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After a horrible dicing breaking my streak, Higher with elves claim the winning streak records with 16 straight wins, first being against Deporcs. |
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CircularLogic
Joined: Aug 22, 2003
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Oct 29, 2009 - 16:01 |
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@Balle:
I do see your point, but I think it would be better, to have another justification instead of your two players that you compare (and I have no clue how you picked them). Once the formula is set, it won`t be able to change it. |
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Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Oct 29, 2009 - 18:19 |
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| CircularLogic wrote: | @Balle:
I do see your point, but I think it would be better, to have another justification instead of your two players that you compare (and I have no clue how you picked them). |
I can agree with that.
I found the QBs by checking the top completion players, and the two runners by checking the top rushers.
Not perfect I must admit  Needs more work. |
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DukeTyrion
Joined: Feb 18, 2004
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Oct 29, 2009 - 18:50 |
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I must admit, I kind of dislike the idea of all these mixed records ... passing and rushing together etc... |
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Shraaaag
Joined: Feb 15, 2004
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Oct 29, 2009 - 19:04 |
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DukeTyrion
Joined: Feb 18, 2004
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Oct 29, 2009 - 19:28 |
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I know, I am just saying the mixed records, to me, seem a bit ... crappy, but like all things, it's an opinion. |
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XtremeXwing
Joined: Dec 03, 2004
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Dec 03, 2009 - 11:54 |
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For best scoring Blocker Pryo i think might be top now with 15td and 28 cas.
Edit: Also as far as i am aware no one team has won 2 [B] Tournaments with the same team yet, apart from me. RedvsBlue. You have to give me a record for that it was with humans after all! |
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zakatan
Joined: May 17, 2008
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Dec 03, 2009 - 14:50 |
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i think you can't claim a career record until the player dies |
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XtremeXwing
Joined: Dec 03, 2004
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Dec 03, 2009 - 14:54 |
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| zakatan wrote: | | i think you can't claim a career record until the player dies |
Where does it say that? Becasue he is active is even more of an achievement anyway! |
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CircularLogic
Joined: Aug 22, 2003
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Dec 03, 2009 - 16:31 |
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Yes, but taking over this new record, while it`s still being improved just leads to a lot of posts updating the record. So it`s great, that you announced your record already.
I believe, that 'most tourney titles held by a team' could be a nice team record, but then the least amount should be 3, else there would be too many ties. |
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