Beater
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jan 11, 2004 - 18:35 |
 
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Bump again. Christer, please update the table. |
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Barash
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Feb 07, 2004 - 12:32 |
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/bump, toooot tooooot! |
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TheLegend
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 08, 2004 - 21:02 |
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why would a person with strength stills take side step on a doubles roll??? (ref: amazon blitzers) |
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Severian
Joined: Dec 12, 2003
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Mar 08, 2004 - 21:12 |
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I can only think because Sidestep makes a player a defensive Bear and an offensive threat even during the other player's turn. I've used my Elf blitzers to work their way into my opponent's backfield during THEIR turn. Amazon Blitzers are Blodgers anyway (Block/Dodge) and they're hard to knock down. Pushbacks make up 1/2 of the possible results when blocking a Blodger...sidestep lets you pick where they go.
Amazon blitzers can't access Agility by default. I can see a lot of sense taking an AG skill with an Amazon Blitzer. I would take Sidestep over the strength trait Stand Firm any day. |
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thmbscrws
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 08, 2004 - 21:23 |
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Stand Firm is much better than sidestep for a variety of reason. It performs a similiar function to sidestep when you get hit, your oponent doesn't get to decide where you go, and on top of that it prevents a failed dodge from causing a turn over. As anyone who has played with zons can tell you turnovers from dodging are a real pain. On top of that it lets you blitzer atempt crazy things like jumping into a cage without risk of a turnover. The ability to dodge around like crazy without fear with a zon blitzer is so incredible not to mention that you already have two catchers who can get sidestep on a normal skill. |
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BadMrMojo
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 08, 2004 - 21:28 |
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I actually like sidestep more than stand firm in regards to blocks but Stand Firm's extra added bonus of safe dodges makes up for it. All in all, the two are actually pretty close in my book. I think it just comes down to personal preference. |
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Severian
Joined: Dec 12, 2003
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Mar 08, 2004 - 21:32 |
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I admit I haven't played with Amazons at all. I like sidestep though, I really like sidestep.
Good point with the failed-dodge benefit. Stand Firm is better in terms of failed dodge, but Sidestep is better in terms of pure annoyance and utility factor. Any time you can make a choice in place of your opponent is a plus, and packing blodgers on the front line, then watching them weave through it due to pushbacks is just plain fun  |
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poodle-man
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 08, 2004 - 23:52 |
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not to mention the added usefulness of sidestep when combined with guard..
one of the most irratating skill combo's out there |
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poodle-man
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 08, 2004 - 23:53 |
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not to mention the added usefulness of sidestep when combined with guard..
one of the most irratating skill combo's out there |
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Player_2
Joined: Feb 07, 2004
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Mar 09, 2004 - 00:39 |
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Any chance of some friendly admin updating the tables, some of the races are based on very few skill picks as i assume this data was compiled shortly after the experimental teams were put in.
Pretty Please. |
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Jarnageddon
Joined: Nov 04, 2003
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Mar 09, 2004 - 00:56 |
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Also, that was me, my computer remembers the username and password and my friend was on here just before I got home from work so it logged on as him. Didn't want you thinking people that hadn't been here that long were asking it of you. (not that I've been here all that long, but enough rambling) |
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Michael_Warblade
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 09, 2004 - 01:24 |
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No actually It was compiled well before the Experimental teams made it to open (around 5 months)
And i can guarantee that Experimental (well at least necros anyway) teams where in DivX at least 2 months before the Skills sheet went up (its just back then most people didnt have many divX teams) |
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Jarnageddon
Joined: Nov 04, 2003
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Mar 09, 2004 - 13:32 |
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Which is what I said, it was compiled shortly after the experimental teams were put in, I made no mention of open because I meant added to the site in the first place and assumed they'd of been in div-x.
Anyhow thats not the point, the point is an updated table would be nice. |
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Grod
Joined: Sep 30, 2003
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Mar 09, 2004 - 13:43 |
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5 players can still push a sidestepper into the crowd, but this is impossible for a stand firmer! |
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Severian
Joined: Dec 12, 2003
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Mar 09, 2004 - 15:33 |
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lol, wrong. If you surround the stand firmer then pushback someone ELSE into the stand firmer you can pop them into the crowd.  |
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