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Java



Joined: Jan 27, 2018

Post   Posted: Sep 21, 2023 - 16:24 Reply with quote Back to top

Best big guy in the game is troll

Second best big guy in the game is second troll

Third best big guy in the game is guaranteed activation animal savagery big guy or tree if not rooting

No exceptions

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MerryZ



Joined: Nov 28, 2005

Post   Posted: Sep 21, 2023 - 17:07 Reply with quote Back to top

Java talks truth there.

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Hovring



Joined: Oct 29, 2003

Post   Posted: Sep 21, 2023 - 17:10 Reply with quote Back to top

eldritchfox wrote:
Perhaps the Vamp throwers are the answer to who would take Fumblerooski?


I think throwers will be a st4 piece that won't carry the ball. With runners low av they need to be protected so might as well let them carry.

Throwers will throw if you need a fast td and on defence they will be the first options for gaze and not the fragile thrower or the bl 3+ blitzer.
remetagross



Joined: Mar 09, 2023

Post   Posted: Sep 21, 2023 - 18:15 Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah, it's nice they now get the opportunity for a 2-turn touchdown on defence.

By the way, slap Strip Ball on a Vamp Blitzer and you've got an amazing ball hawk. Hypno gaze the ball carrier, blitz him and the ball pops loose on anything but a double skull.
PrivateNiCeGuY



Joined: Oct 30, 2018

Post   Posted: Sep 22, 2023 - 11:00 Reply with quote Back to top

The dream 1000k team (if we got the 0-2 positionals)
12-13 players + 3 rr´s
with a Vamp crew of
1x Runner
1x Blitzer
2x Throwers

now it can do most of what the "old" vamps could to start and you have some solid options offensively and defensively

Runner = ball carrier or 2 turn catcher. And on D it´s the "I need to get to spot X to do a gaze or the one that have reach to get to the ball after the sack
Blitzer = blitzer with Juggs so you dont need block as first skill!!!!
Thrower = all rounder these guys does everything and a cheap leader skill-up really helps at low TV
Jayward



Joined: Dec 22, 2020

Post   Posted: Sep 22, 2023 - 13:55 Reply with quote Back to top

Seems like Coach got his hands on the Spike a little early; he's posted on discord that he's updated the team costs:

https://bbtactics.com/vampire-teams/
EinVoegleinImWind



Joined: May 31, 2023

Post   Posted: Sep 22, 2023 - 14:11 Reply with quote Back to top

Ok, with those costs you can take 4 Vamps, 8 Thralls and 4 RR.

Or 4 Vamps (one has to be a Runner), 7 Thralls, 4 RR and an Apothecary.

Or 3 Vamps, 7 Thralls, Vargheist, 4 RR.

Or 6 Vamps, 6 Thralls and 2 RR.

Or 6 Vamps, Vargheist, 4 Thralls and an Apothecary (yes, no RR Laughing)
remetagross



Joined: Mar 09, 2023

Post   Posted: Sep 22, 2023 - 16:30 Reply with quote Back to top

Way cheaper than I thought, including cheaper rerolls! The vargheist seems a bargain an that price. Compare it with the mino: it blows it out of the water.

To all the blitzer nonbelievers: S access is why every team is going to want them anyway.

@EinVoegleinImWind:I'd go with your first roster. 2 throwers, 1 runner (you need that MA Cool, 1 blitzer (for safe-ish blocks), 4 thralls, 4 rerolls, 1 dedicated fan. Then take an apo, etc.
Nelphine



Joined: Apr 01, 2011

Post   Posted: Sep 22, 2023 - 17:02 Reply with quote Back to top

... vargheist is TERRIBLE compared to a mino. and mino's are already terrible.
Sp00keh



Joined: Dec 06, 2011

Post   Posted: Sep 22, 2023 - 17:14 Reply with quote Back to top

Sp00keh wrote:
Thralls are confirmed at 40k, guessing they'll have G + AS access
Blitzers 120k GS + A
Runners 110k GA + S
Throwers 110k GP + SA
Varg 160k S + GA


I was +10k too heavy on blitzer, runner, varg prices

Skill access,
I had blitzers with A as secondary but it's primary
I had runners without P access but it's secondary
I had throwers with A as secondary but it's primary

otherwise correct, B-
Sp00keh



Joined: Dec 06, 2011

Post   Posted: Sep 22, 2023 - 17:29 Reply with quote Back to top

remetagross wrote:
To all the blitzer nonbelievers: S access is why every team is going to want them anyway.

I think it's mainly the Juggs, isn't it? for early reliablity
Vamps don't take a lot of Strength skills generally, they're more often trying to get blodge'd up first
Nelphine



Joined: Apr 01, 2011

Post   Posted: Sep 22, 2023 - 17:46 Reply with quote Back to top

Blodgepro first
One blitzer might take hitting skills after
One thrower might take leader after
Everyone might take sidestep after
Then stats
EinVoegleinImWind



Joined: May 31, 2023

Post   Posted: Sep 22, 2023 - 17:54 Reply with quote Back to top

bbtacttics also got the new star players:

Captain Karina von Riesz: Mv7 Str4 Ag2+ Pa4+ AV9+ 230k
Bloodlust (2+), Dodge, Hypnotic Gaze, Jump Up, Loner (4+), Regeneration, Tasty Morsel (can bite an enemy player (Str 3 or less) once per game)

Count Luthor von Drakenborg Mv6 Str5 Ag2+ Pa3+ AV10+ 340k
Block, Hypnotic Gaze, Loner (4+), Regeneration, Side Step, Star of the Show (one additional RR per game for the next drive, when the Count scores a TD)

Ivan ‘the Animal’ Deathshroud Mv6 Str4 Ag4+ Pa5+ AV9+ 190k
Block, Disturbing Presence Juggernaut, Loner (4+), Regeneration, Strip Ball, Tackle, Dwarfen Scourge (MB once per game, +2 against Dwarfs)
Nelphine



Joined: Apr 01, 2011

Post   Posted: Sep 22, 2023 - 18:54 Reply with quote Back to top

I feel like they forgot to give the Captain Block.
Gridironman



Joined: Mar 18, 2022

Post   Posted: Sep 22, 2023 - 20:59 Reply with quote Back to top

I am pretty hgappy with what they decided to do with the Vampires even though it does bother me that the catcher is a valid catcher but loses St4

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