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lamby16



Joined: Sep 07, 2005

Post   Posted: Oct 06, 2005 - 22:31 Reply with quote Back to top

Hi, I've played a few games now with my skaven team and i keep getting -1FF results, even if i dont lose or suffer any casualties!!! Can someone explain how FF goes up and down?
Gran



Joined: Jul 07, 2005

Post   Posted: Oct 06, 2005 - 22:36 Reply with quote Back to top

Yes, it's called LRB. Read it.

http://www.specialist-games.com/bloodbowl/rulebook.asp

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AFK_Eagle



Joined: Mar 12, 2004

Post   Posted: Oct 06, 2005 - 22:37 Reply with quote Back to top

To paraphrase the rules out of hte LRB...

At the end of a game, roll d6. From this number, add any/all modifiers which apply:

Lost -1
Win +1
Score 2 or more +1
2 or more Cas +1
For every 10 FF on team, -1

Note: Cas suffered doesn't matter in FF rolls, nor do scores by the opposing team (other than to decide win/loss)

Add the d6 roll and all modifiers; if roll is 1 or less, FF down. If 6 or more, FF up. Note the last modifier-- -1 for every 10 FF. So when my rats had their FF 27, I received -2 modifier simply from having a large fan base. The idea is the more fans you have, the more chance of having a few fickle ones who will leave at the drop of a hat. This also puts a theoretical limit to maximum FF you can have, as eventually your negative modifiers from present FF will more than offset any positives you get by winning big and hitting hard. For newbie teams this shouldn't be an issue.

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Macavity



Joined: Nov 23, 2004

Post   Posted: Oct 06, 2005 - 22:37 Reply with quote Back to top

Roll low. Win/lose and score and CAS rates just modify the roll.

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Gran



Joined: Jul 07, 2005

Post   Posted: Oct 06, 2005 - 22:42 Reply with quote Back to top

AFK_Eagle wrote:
This also puts a theoretical limit to maximum FF you can have, as eventually your negative modifiers from present FF will more than offset any positives you get by winning big and hitting hard.

Is this really true? Doesn't unmodified 6's always succede and unmodified 1's always fail for FF-rolls as well?

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jimimothybodles



Joined: Mar 31, 2004

Post   Posted: Oct 06, 2005 - 22:44 Reply with quote Back to top

in the 6 games your skaven have had, you've had 4 +1FF and only 2 -1FF..

thats pretty good going really!


read the LRB




*cough*

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AFK_Eagle



Joined: Mar 12, 2004

Post   Posted: Oct 06, 2005 - 22:44 Reply with quote Back to top

Used to be before last rev...the bad news is that auto-d6 doesn't help--MORE than offset by the good news that a 1 won't kill ya, even if ya win by 3 scores causing 5 cas...

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lamby16



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Post   Posted: Oct 06, 2005 - 22:48 Reply with quote Back to top

jimimothybodles wrote:
in the 6 games your skaven have had, you've had 4 +1FF and only 2 -1FF..

thats pretty good going really!


read the LRB




*cough*


I'm sure you remember Every single rule from the LRB of the top of your head????

god some people are arrongant these days
AFK_Eagle



Joined: Mar 12, 2004

Post   Posted: Oct 06, 2005 - 23:04 Reply with quote Back to top

Get used to that attitude from a lot of fumbbl posters. It's not that most of fumbbl is this arrogant and rude, just the posters.

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CorporateSlave3



Joined: Feb 07, 2004

Post   Posted: Oct 06, 2005 - 23:07 Reply with quote Back to top

lamby16 wrote:

I'm sure you remember Every single rule from the LRB of the top of your head????


Actually, it is sick just how much of this volume most people here do have stored in their heads rather than some more practical knowledge...myself not excluded Embarassed

Then again, to speak such is Blasphemy against Nuffle, so I take it all back! Everyone should memorize the LRB! All hail the LRB! Wink

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Mezir



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Oct 06, 2005 - 23:11 Reply with quote Back to top

We don't expect you to know every rule, but when you misquote a rule as badly as you did... We expect that you have read it before and can go and look it up, probably less effort than asking the forums and getting flamed, anyway.

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lamby16



Joined: Sep 07, 2005

Post   Posted: Oct 06, 2005 - 23:21 Reply with quote Back to top

Mezir wrote:
We don't expect you to know every rule, but when you misquote a rule as badly as you did... We expect that you have read it before and can go and look it up, probably less effort than asking the forums and getting flamed, anyway.


I didn't quote anything, i just asked a question. People should learn to be tolerant of new BB players, this massive "I'm better than you" attitude which most of you guys have is really terrible
macike



Joined: Jun 25, 2005

Post   Posted: Oct 06, 2005 - 23:28 Reply with quote Back to top

lamby16 wrote:
I'm sure you remember Every single rule from the LRB of the top of your head????

Personally I have learnt by heart all Rule Books I used since BB 2rd Edition (including my local League 'Home Rules'). I do not require my opponents to do that. If they are stupid enough to be guilty of negligence they will make mistakes and lose the game on their own demand. My pleasure. Laughing
It's like starting a battle without any reconnaissance.

The best I've ever met was a guy starting a Vampire team without knowing how the OFAB and H.Gaze work. Laughing

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lamby16



Joined: Sep 07, 2005

Post   Posted: Oct 06, 2005 - 23:30 Reply with quote Back to top

I know how to play the game and how all the in-game rules apply, im just new to league play and am not 100% on the post-match sequence. if i was asking what block did or what modifiers are there to dodgr then fair enough! but i dont think it's fair to have a go at someone for asking a question

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macike



Joined: Jun 25, 2005

Post 4 Posted: Oct 06, 2005 - 23:44 Reply with quote Back to top

lamby16 wrote:
People should learn to be tolerant of new BB players

People should learn not to be ignorants. Reading the LRB would not be a waste of your time (assuming that you're going to play some more games). Not reading the LRB will be waste of many others' time.

Many of us will gladly share our experience with you. You will not be able to benefit from it without knowing the basics.

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