Cyco
Joined: Nov 30, 2003
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May 11, 2007 - 06:19 |
 
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Hi.
I just got to say, I was very critical to the 4 min turn rule, when it first came. (Had all kinds of excuses, for not wanting it).
But now when I have tried it, I just go to say I love it. Its really good. And makes the games faster. Though its very seldome I ever ues 4 min for a turn.
And if I have to go away I ask my opponent if he could try to use the full turn, so I get more time. And so far, it havent been a problem. I love it.
If you think 4 min is too short, the you should stay out of Speed. Its a great fun KO tournament with 1 (+5) min turn time, instead of 4 (+10) min. Total chaos.
But whats your oppinion? |
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CanvasBack
Joined: Jan 15, 2007
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May 11, 2007 - 06:28 |
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Other. It isn't really 4 minutes with the bonus time the way it is. |
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JoseBagg
Joined: Sep 10, 2004
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May 11, 2007 - 06:38 |
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I am indifferent. The crying and moaning that was done has totally nerfed teh 4 min rule. It has NO effect on a game. |
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Zingr
Joined: Mar 14, 2004
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May 11, 2007 - 06:41 |
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I enjoy two hour games. They're grrrreeeaaattt!!!! |
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monboesen
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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May 11, 2007 - 07:23 |
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| Quote: | | Other. It isn't really 4 minutes with the bonus time the way it is. |
True.
| Quote: | | if I have to go away I ask my opponent if he could try to use the full turn, so I get more time |
And thats why those extra 10 minutes aren't needed and shouldn't be there. |
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Synn
Joined: Dec 13, 2004
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May 11, 2007 - 07:44 |
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Funny thing is......
Now i find myself pissed when a coach heads into his 10 minute extra time.
But we won't mention any of the names..... even if they are using darkies in the UI. 
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Mezir
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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May 11, 2007 - 08:18 |
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I was very sceptical at first, but now that I've tried it... I must say I love it. Even with bathroom breaks and fetching drinks and whatever, I've never been pressed for time myself. And when my opponent heads into his ten minutes... Well, let's just say I'm almost frothing at the mouth if they need more than three minutes in the first place.
The extra ten minutes are, in my opinion, superfluous. If you have an emergency, you can stop at the save game and reload anyway. Or if it's not an emergency, you can go to the end of your turn, apologise to your opponent for being away for a while, and just let the clock run on into infinity, because all you need to do is click turn.
So, I'd advocate getting rid of the extra ten minutes now, after being a strong opponent of a turn limit before. 
And for all those people who say it stops people from chatting in game... I'm still as chatty as before and I've never even come close to using my four minutes thus far. |
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spelledaren
Joined: Mar 06, 2004
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May 11, 2007 - 08:41 |
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Well, it might be imagination, but I feel like my games take longer, as several coaches take up the full 4 minutes!
It is not a bad rule anyway. |
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Oventa
Joined: Jan 03, 2005
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May 11, 2007 - 08:47 |
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I was also a very strong opponent to the 4min turn enforcement.
And I still think still that it only works if you have an "emergency solution"
Now that I have tried, I am against the 10minutes extra time solution.
Why? Because it is indeed no use. Same as before
In games where there is NO emergency, noone will run into troubles at all.
cause it is just not possible to waste on average that much time on turns.
The important thing about the 4minute rule is that for the one complex turn where you need to blitz pass catch doge to do the final TD, this one should not take more than 4 minutes.
So we just see our opponent dropping into the extra time, but hey so what can we do? there is no action involved.
so wow its 20 seconds over the time. no action from anybody needed, so just play on.
I still prefer the stop the client button solution, available at most once per turn ( or 3 times per half or something like that).
field gets black, except for starting the clock. No action is possible.
It is true one could make a screenshort and memorize his move etc.
but that would be an ACTIVE action and troublesome.
noone really wants to use more than 4 minutes for his turn.
it happens most of the time when you just do not look at the clock and suddentlz realize "oops gotta hurry" or even just when hearing the whistle from the ref.
So have more trust in the community not actively circumventing the 4minutes enforcement,
then the passive not using extra time solution.
My 2cents. |
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SillySod
Joined: Oct 10, 2006
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May 11, 2007 - 13:15 |
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It's a good rule but needs some changes to stop ultra slow coaches.
I reckon that long turns are not a problem but long games are seriously anoying.
Proposed change: 3 min turn restriction, 20 mins extra time.
This means that regular turns (and total potential game time) are shorter but you are still able to have a long turn (or several) when you have loads of stuff to do. |
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Macavity
Joined: Nov 23, 2004
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May 11, 2007 - 17:40 |
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I love it! |
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Germy
Joined: Feb 14, 2007
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May 11, 2007 - 17:54 |
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10 minutes of extra time?
get rid of it |
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JanMattys
Joined: Feb 29, 2004
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May 11, 2007 - 17:54 |
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I was totally against it, and to some extent I still think it's bad because it's not a good rule for the Internet medium. Playing non face to face is something you should take into consideration when referring to the 4 mins rule, and tbh I think it's just wrong to put a limit when you've got limited (if any) control over your opponent's real needs and situation.
This said, I must say that it didn't bother me in the slightest in the games I played, and it very rarely affected my opponent.
So, in all, I consider it very stupid and wrong the theory that states that the rule is good on internet bb as well, but it has pratically no effect.
So no doomsday device, but it' was still the wrong thing to do. |
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Borgen
Joined: Sep 06, 2005
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May 11, 2007 - 17:58 |
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I think at least in ranked tournaments the 10 minutes extra time should be removed. |
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Meech
Joined: Sep 15, 2005
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May 11, 2007 - 18:05 |
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I am pretty sure the 4 minute rule is the reason Fumbbl is the barren wasteland it is today. Watch out for the tumbleweeds. |
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