Kalimar
Joined: Sep 22, 2006
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May 12, 2010 - 15:57 |
 
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Hi all,
I've got a question to the rules-experts out there: what happens exactly when a tree tries to stand up? He has a 50% chance to get up (on a 4+) at all and can go for it after that. But what about the Take Root roll? He lost his Take Root when he went down. What if he fails the roll upon getting up? Does he get up and is rooted right away?
Thanks for the input,
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ultwe
Joined: Dec 25, 2004
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May 12, 2010 - 16:02 |
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From the rulebook:
| Quote: | | "[...]If a player fails his take root as part of his blitz action, he may not block that turn(he can still roll to stand up if prone)" |
Seems to me that take root is rolled before stand up. failling take root does not prevent the roll for standing up, but the effects of take root are applied. |
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On1
Joined: Jul 12, 2004
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May 12, 2010 - 16:19 |
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| rulebook wrote: | | A player that has taken root may not"Go for it", be pushed back for any reason, or use any skill that would allow him to move out of his current square or be placed prone |
Does the above mean that when a treeman has taken root it can not use Wrestle/Shadowing/Diving tackle/Sidestep? and that its standfirm is auto use and can not be canceled by juggernaut?
Just some stuff you might want to take into consideration Kalimar  unless you have done so already dunno.
Hope i found the right rulebook here (not sitting at my own comp) |
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mubo
Joined: Dec 30, 2008
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May 12, 2010 - 16:30 |
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Kalimar
Joined: Sep 22, 2006
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May 12, 2010 - 16:31 |
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On1, you make my head ache
EDIT: just noticed that this should probably rather be in the "Rules Questions" forum. Perhaps someone could move it? |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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May 12, 2010 - 16:59 |
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| On1 wrote: | | rulebook wrote: | | A player that has taken root may not"Go for it", be pushed back for any reason, or use any skill that would allow him to move out of his current square or be placed prone |
Does the above mean that when a treeman has taken root it can not use Wrestle/Shadowing/Diving tackle/Sidestep? and that its standfirm is auto use and can not be canceled by juggernaut?
Just some stuff you might want to take into consideration Kalimar unless you have done so already dunno.
Hope I found the right rulebook here (not sitting at my own comp) |
He can still use wrestle as it will uproot him. But he cannot use the other skills. I was always under the impression that when down he cannot root because he is 'uprooted'. If he takes root then passes the stand up roll then he is rooted again until knocked down again. But if roots then fails to stand up it surely doesn't count as he is uprooted. |
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On1
Joined: Jul 12, 2004
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May 12, 2010 - 17:19 |
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| Garion wrote: | | On1 wrote: | | rulebook wrote: | | A player that has taken root may not"Go for it", be pushed back for any reason, or use any skill that would allow him to move out of his current square or be placed prone |
Does the above mean that when a treeman has taken root it can not use Wrestle/Shadowing/Diving tackle/Sidestep? and that its standfirm is auto use and can not be canceled by juggernaut?
Just some stuff you might want to take into consideration Kalimar unless you have done so already dunno.
Hope I found the right rulebook here (not sitting at my own comp) |
He can still use wrestle as it will uproot him. But he cannot use the other skills. I was always under the impression that when down he cannot root because he is 'uprooted'. If he takes root then passes the stand up roll then he is rooted again until knocked down again. But if roots then fails to stand up it surely doesn't count as he is uprooted. |
You sure he can use wrestle?
| rulebook wrote: | | or use any skill that would allow him to be placed prone" |
It makes sense that he would be able to use wrestle. But the rules as i read them tells me that he cant use wrestle. (the rules phrased in my quote may not have taken wrestle into consideration.) |
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Lakrillo
Joined: Sep 12, 2007
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May 12, 2010 - 19:03 |
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He cannot use wrestle himself, but he can be placed prone by a player with wrestle and that would uproot him. |
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Hitonagashi
Joined: Apr 09, 2006
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May 12, 2010 - 19:29 |
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So, let's get this straight, if he doesn't have block, and has wrestle...he can't use wrestle to be placed prone, he must instead be..knocked over and placed prone and given an armour roll?
Seems kinda sucky, but I guess that's how the rules work. |
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