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HavocX



Joined: Aug 16, 2006
Post   Posted: Aug 23, 2006 - 16:42 Reply with quote Back to top
Is it against the rules to tell a potential opponent (before connecting) that you will not foul them as long as they do not foul you?
lethiel



Joined: Dec 05, 2004
Post   Posted: Aug 23, 2006 - 16:45 Reply with quote Back to top
No but nobody has to keep their promises either.
Woodpecker



Joined: Apr 08, 2005
Post   Posted: Aug 23, 2006 - 16:47 Reply with quote Back to top
Yes, it's called a pre-match agreement, and it's against site rules and will get you in big trouble if you do it.

-Edit-
Okay, you BOTH need to go take a good look at the site rules.


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johan



Joined: Aug 02, 2003
Post   Posted: Aug 23, 2006 - 16:48 Reply with quote Back to top
Woodpecker is right, Lethiel is wrong.

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BigMac



Joined: Dec 19, 2004
Post   Posted: Aug 23, 2006 - 16:48 Reply with quote Back to top
In ranked, yes it is.
Tophat



Joined: Jun 01, 2006
Post   Posted: Aug 23, 2006 - 16:49 Reply with quote Back to top
although your fine to write "this team dosent foul people who dont foul them first in team bio....."

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johan



Joined: Aug 02, 2003
Post   Posted: Aug 23, 2006 - 16:50 Reply with quote Back to top
Are you really?
Voorn



Joined: Nov 23, 2005
Post   Posted: Aug 23, 2006 - 17:11 Reply with quote Back to top
True, it is against the rules to make those prematch agreements. It is also against the rules to ask your opponant to stop fouling you during a match. This is even true if there is no agreement offered but a mere plea. If you so much as say "would you please stop fouling my guys, I have only 2 left alive" your opponant can report you and get you banned for making an "agreement". If you play a game and someone is observing and see opportunities where you could have fouled each other and did not and you go the entire game without fouling, you can be reported for having an "agreement" whether you had one or not.
Yes, you are allowed to write that in your bio. But if your opponant asks you about it, if you confirm or deny it, it is considered an agreement and you can be reported.

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Tophat



Joined: Jun 01, 2006
Post   Posted: Aug 23, 2006 - 17:13 Reply with quote Back to top
Voorn wrote:
If you play a game and someone is observing and see opportunities where you could have fouled each other and did not and you go the entire game without fouling, you can be reported for having an "agreement" whether you had one or not.


thats just drivel though and nobody would take such a complaint , as it is always a tactical descion whether you foul or not .
Voorn



Joined: Nov 23, 2005
Post   Posted: Aug 23, 2006 - 17:17 Reply with quote Back to top
Tophat wrote:
Voorn wrote:
If you play a game and someone is observing and see opportunities where you could have fouled each other and did not and you go the entire game without fouling, you can be reported for having an "agreement" whether you had one or not.


thats just drivel though and nobody would take such a complaint , as it is always a tactical descion whether you foul or not .

It depends on who is doing the complaining, who is recieving the ticket and who is being complained about. Those facters can very well determine whether or not you get banned for agreements.

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spiderswebb11



Joined: Jul 27, 2005
Post   Posted: Aug 23, 2006 - 17:18 Reply with quote Back to top
I don't think fouls are always tactical. In fact I know they are not! I rarely foul but if I do it is usually because I'm annoyed Razz
johan



Joined: Aug 02, 2003
Post   Posted: Aug 23, 2006 - 17:20 Reply with quote Back to top
Voorn wrote:
It is also against the rules to ask your opponant to stop fouling you during a match. This is even true if there is no agreement offered but a mere plea.


I can't tell for certain whether Voorn is just trolling, but he is, as usual, spouting rank nonsense.

/johan
Leiradi



Joined: May 19, 2004
Post   Posted: Aug 23, 2006 - 17:25 Reply with quote Back to top
Voorn wrote:
True, it is against the rules to make those prematch agreements. It is also against the rules to ask your opponant to stop fouling you during a match. This is even true if there is no agreement offered but a mere plea. If you so much as say "would you please stop fouling my guys, I have only 2 left alive" your opponant can report you and get you banned for making an "agreement". If you play a game and someone is observing and see opportunities where you could have fouled each other and did not and you go the entire game without fouling, you can be reported for having an "agreement" whether you had one or not.
Yes, you are allowed to write that in your bio. But if your opponant asks you about it, if you confirm or deny it, it is considered an agreement and you can be reported.


There cannot be an agreement unless both players agree, so only a third part could report an agreement between to coaches. And I think that is really petty.
Voorn



Joined: Nov 23, 2005
Post   Posted: Aug 23, 2006 - 17:27 Reply with quote Back to top
spiderswebb11 wrote:
I don't think fouls are always tactical. In fact I know they are not! I rarely foul but if I do it is usually because I'm annoyed Razz

I agree with you spider. The decision to foul or not to foul should be yours rather then being forced to do it when you do not want to just because someoneis observing the game who might run and make up stories about arrangements to get you in trouble for spite. True, in that instance you probobly wont get banned since there would be no log to prove it, but it would most definately get you blocked until you contact the specific admin who blocked you and grovel.
The only evidence that will get you really banned is official logs, even if you did not make the agreement and the words have to be twisted as in the instance of saying "would you please stop gangfouling my players?". Of course, you can always ask to see a copy of the log sent in. If one is provided for you to see, it is legit. If not, it doesnt exist.

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gkornecki



Joined: May 28, 2004
Post   Posted: Aug 23, 2006 - 17:28 Reply with quote Back to top
I'd say that asking a person to stop killing your team, whether by fouling
pushing etc...is not against the rules...It is not a PRE game agreement.
It is an in game plea.
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