Macavity
Joined: Nov 23, 2004
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Jan 25, 2005 - 20:09 |
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In my brief time on Fumbbl, I have never seen a wizard used, but isn't a fireball the best way to deal with a dwarf cage? Wizard spells are avoided with AG rolls, doesn't that mean every high AG team worried about bashers should have one? My entire undead team would crumple, BOBs would go down, Chaos would still suck to fight, but it couldn't hurt to try. Why don't elves, Humies and Skaven always have wizards? Am I missing something? |
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Glomp
Joined: Jan 04, 2004
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Jan 25, 2005 - 20:11 |
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Yeah if you've got 50k and your playing dwarfs hire one. |
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Macavity
Joined: Nov 23, 2004
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Jan 25, 2005 - 20:21 |
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I guess I here a lot of complaining about the disadvantages of fast vs. bash teams. It seems like more people would use wizards to even things up, no? |
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nazerdemus
Joined: Nov 02, 2004
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Jan 25, 2005 - 20:24 |
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Dwarf coachs in the whole are a lot like elf coaches in that they dont like it when things dont go there way , In ranked if a dwarf spots your wizard he'll probably say - umm no thanks and pop off to find someone else to play.
Oh and if you do get one keep hold of it till the second half unless it all goes really badly , the longer you have it the fear of the wizard may open up his players a bit |
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Macavity
Joined: Nov 23, 2004
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Jan 25, 2005 - 20:29 |
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So it is a good tactic (two experienced coaches agreeing), just nobody uses it? That's it. I'm wizarding every time from now on!!!!! |
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Britnoth
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jan 25, 2005 - 20:36 |
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Its far better for the team to save that 50k for another player or a reroll, and not play that dwarf team with 6+ mighty blows and a dp. |
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SergeiBautin
Joined: Jul 15, 2004
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Jan 25, 2005 - 20:37 |
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And he can use a runesmith or what the dwarfic "wizard" is called again. Rather a good one, gives a player skills for the whole match. So there are ways to "cheat" for them as well. Im of the distinct point of wiew that any use of a wizard should be proclaimed BEFORE the game is started, just to keep the friendly tone. Its not a very nice surprise, i have been up against it myself. |
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nazerdemus
Joined: Nov 02, 2004
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Jan 25, 2005 - 20:39 |
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Britnoth wrote: | Its far better for the team to save that 50k for another player or a reroll, and not play that dwarf team with 6+ mighty blows and a dp. |
Cough...Cherrypicker...Cough |
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Glomp
Joined: Jan 04, 2004
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Jan 25, 2005 - 20:41 |
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Its worth every penny just to see that big clump of dwarfs go pop.
Got the full nine once.
Marvellous. |
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Britnoth
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jan 25, 2005 - 20:49 |
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nazerdemus wrote: | Britnoth wrote: | Its far better for the team to save that 50k for another player or a reroll, and not play that dwarf team with 6+ mighty blows and a dp. |
Cough...Cherrypicker...Cough |
If teams need a wizard to be on equal terms with a dwarf team, then by definition they are much stronger and it is reasonable not to play them. Or are you one of those dwarf coaches that challenge amazons and av7 elves to games all the time? |
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Macavity
Joined: Nov 23, 2004
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Jan 25, 2005 - 20:50 |
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Sergei, I'm not sure what you mean by "declared", obviously buying one after agreeing to the match is rude, but I wouldn't feel the need t oannounce it. I general I think people are way too attached to their players. I had a dwarf coach edgy about a game against my undead due to the presence of one DP. Live a little boys! Blow up some dwarves!
//Edit// Brit, I don't think this is about "equal terms" equal is impossible to gauge. The elves are faster and more agile, the dwarves are harder and tougher, the idea of the tactic is to help your team win, not to make you the equal of a stronger team. That is why the TS rating exists, isn't it?//edit// |
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BunnyPuncher
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jan 25, 2005 - 20:57 |
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It is too bad stars/wizards/chefs/rune dwarfs/freebooters etc. are not handled through the client during start up. Be nice to get rid of this argument all together imho. |
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nazerdemus
Joined: Nov 02, 2004
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Jan 25, 2005 - 20:58 |
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Britnoth wrote: | nazerdemus wrote: | Britnoth wrote: | Its far better for the team to save that 50k for another player or a reroll, and not play that dwarf team with 6+ mighty blows and a dp. |
Cough...Cherrypicker...Cough |
If teams need a wizard to be on equal terms with a dwarf team, then by definition they are much stronger and it is reasonable not to play them. Or are you one of those dwarf coaches that challenge amazons and av7 elves to games all the time? |
No im an E.L.F players that challenges Dwarfs to games |
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Macavity
Joined: Nov 23, 2004
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Jan 25, 2005 - 21:01 |
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Bunny, this isn't supposed t obe an argument about the "when are things hired" I'm just wondering why people don't use wizards. But hijacks happen |
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BunnyPuncher
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jan 25, 2005 - 21:04 |
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well.. the why people don't use wizards is a short argument...
outside of tournaments stars/wizards are not worth the money |
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