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Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: May 23, 2024 - 19:39 Reply with quote Back to top

It's no joke. I have a terrible record blocking Snotlings. I'm not sure ive ever injured one 😅

But seriously... removal of Swarming is fine

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Carthage



Joined: Mar 18, 2021

Post   Posted: May 23, 2024 - 19:48 Reply with quote Back to top

Overall rules changes:
Make the 'bad' passing result have to be a 0 after mods or get rid of wildly inaccurate.
Get rid of leap's weird max modification being a +1 thing.
Hail mary pass can never be "wildly inaccurate"
Rework apothecary to be more reliable and/or increase badly hurt window
Officious ref should only send off for a drive
I prefer old skill up system to this new one. It makes it harder for AG teams to develop at high TV since they need more SPP than before to get secondaries or stats and, at the same time, makes it easier for bash teams to develop since they reliably get the MA8 ball carrier they want.
Give AG a counter to Stand Firm. Both positioning skills have counters but they're both in the Strength skill family (Juggernaut/Grab).
Rework brawler to let you reroll any 1 block die, not just both downs on a 2 die, non-blitz block.

Team specific ones
Goblin Trolls lose loner altogether.
All elves +1 to PA. Replace EU thrower with a new positional and give P access to the blitzer (since its PA2+ now)
Rework amazon blocker
Give chaos chosen an fragile ball carrier with GAM access, Chaos Goblin basically?
Give Renegades bigs mutation primaries and make one of the positionals a blitzer with block
Nurgle: -5k from pestigors
Vamps: Any 1 of these: -1 MA from runner, Gaze 3+ minimum, blood lust rolls with +1 to injury check
OWA: take loner away from the dwarves
Orc: change to 2 blitzers, -1 MA from big'uns
Dorf/Chorf: Lose tackle on linemen, give it to dorf blitzers
Imp Nobs: RR to 60, linemen +1AV, +10k, blitzers -10k.
Khorne: Linemen +1 AV +10k, Spawn trades UF for AS or +1 AV
Wood elf catchers -10/15k, -catch
UD: Lose either gutter or snots
Necro: -5k golems
Lizard: Chameleon skink +1MA, +5k

Now everyone tell me how dumb I am.
Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: May 23, 2024 - 19:53 Reply with quote Back to top

Mostly a solid list carthage. A few things there are deffo nos. But most look solid

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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: May 23, 2024 - 20:01 Reply with quote Back to top

A Chaos Goblin for Chaos doesn't look very fitting, I'd suggest an Ungor as ball carrier.
RDaneel



Joined: Feb 24, 2023

Post   Posted: May 23, 2024 - 20:12 Reply with quote Back to top

I want a true Hardware Embedded RNG included in the box

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razmus



Joined: Jun 23, 2017

Post   Posted: May 23, 2024 - 20:24 Reply with quote Back to top

RDaneel wrote:
I want a true Hardware Embedded RNG included in the box

Laughing I only got the books in 2020.. but my 2016 box set came with hardware RNG, and I get more at every tournament I attend and a few more from NAF every year. I still have boatloads from the local tournament I ran. I'm swim'n in 'em.

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MrCushtie



Joined: Aug 10, 2018

Post   Posted: May 23, 2024 - 20:54 Reply with quote Back to top

Reprice some skills to be modified by faction keywords - eg Sneaky Git is half price if purchased by <Bribery & Corruption> teams

Nerf pogo stick by making leaps compulsory as soon as the pogo stick is activated - if you move 3 squares and then leap, you won't stop bouncing; either an MA7 pogo then does a second leap, or can't move again

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Gridironman



Joined: Mar 18, 2022

Post   Posted: May 23, 2024 - 20:57 Reply with quote Back to top

They haven't recrafted the teams of legend yet. I am confused.

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Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: May 24, 2024 - 08:57 Reply with quote Back to top

Gridironman wrote:
They haven't recrafted the teams of legend yet. I am confused.

Yeah they will release them eventually but that was also the case between 2016 and 2020 edition.

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Frost_



Joined: Oct 11, 2022

Post   Posted: May 24, 2024 - 10:40 Reply with quote Back to top

Garion wrote:
Gridironman wrote:
They haven't recrafted the teams of legend yet. I am confused.

Yeah they will release them eventually but that was also the case between 2016 and 2020 edition.


What teams are in the starter box?
Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: May 24, 2024 - 10:40 Reply with quote Back to top

Frost_ wrote:
Garion wrote:
Gridironman wrote:
They haven't recrafted the teams of legend yet. I am confused.

Yeah they will release them eventually but that was also the case between 2016 and 2020 edition.


What teams are in the starter box?


I dunno yet, no one has told me, but I'll let you know as soon as I know.

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DoctorMidnight



Joined: Jul 07, 2022

Post   Posted: May 24, 2024 - 10:46 Reply with quote Back to top

High Elves vs Chaos Dwarves?

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Sp00keh



Joined: Dec 06, 2011

Post   Posted: May 24, 2024 - 10:50 Reply with quote Back to top

1x sprue each of High Elves, Chaos Dwarves, Tomb Kings
Poglar



Joined: Aug 23, 2020

Post   Posted: May 24, 2024 - 11:30 Reply with quote Back to top

I think we can all agree that 2020 brought in some much beloved changes, we need to go further in that direction:


- Allow multiple rerolls per event, not just per turn. So you can infinitely reroll that t1 opening dub skull
- Add a catching stat to go with passing stat, on a natural 1 the catcher simply hands the ball to the nearest opponent.
- Add swarming to all teams with linemen under 40k cost
- More one sided matchups. Lets see teams with ma9 at a baseline, but ag is 6+. Others with MA0 and ST6 on all pieces. That sounds like fun
- Star players should be able to amend the game result at full time on a 2+.
- Each positional for every team should have a unique trait like hitnrun or drunkard
- Stars should have at least three unique traits that get randomly selected at kickoff, and you can purchase more at inducements for 10k
- Prayers to nuffle on a d100
- Split out all the skills again, not just passing. So dodge for blocking, and dodge for dodging. Kick for first half, kick for second half
- Apothecaries only work on a 6. On a 1 they heal an opponent player instead by mistake.
- Make all level ups random.
- Guide newcomers into the game with nice simple races in the box. Lets go with Vampires and Gnomes.
- 5 new Gnome teams.
- Nerf Goblins
Raging_glacier



Joined: Mar 22, 2023

Post   Posted: May 24, 2024 - 12:29 Reply with quote Back to top

DoctorMidnight wrote:
Suppress that stupid PA stat.

Nerf Malmir.


Fumbbl already has a nerf in place - Malmir autofails rerolls on rushes. Unfortunately he seems to have adapted
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