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Alf115



Joined: Aug 17, 2005

Post   Posted: Jun 14, 2010 - 19:21 Reply with quote Back to top

pizzamogul wrote:
After watching some World Cup matches, I'm certain the new client needs:

/vuvuzela


It really doesn't
Archevol



Joined: Dec 14, 2008

Post   Posted: Jun 14, 2010 - 19:41 Reply with quote Back to top

So Alf115 is suggesting /ban vuvuzela? Seconded.

I actually got my girlfriend to watch the football until she decided the vuvu's were just too annoying.
Deng_Ham



Joined: Nov 16, 2006

Post   Posted: Jun 14, 2010 - 20:57 Reply with quote Back to top

I love the idea of more sounds for spectators. And many of the ideas that have been posted sound fantastic. But I think we should limit it to pure sounds and noises. The stuff one can get free on the net and not needing to record or steal copyrighted material. Recording can become a big job if one want to make it right and stealing is just wrong we don't want another C&D letter.

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WhatBall



Joined: Aug 21, 2008

Post   Posted: Jun 14, 2010 - 21:04 Reply with quote Back to top

Alf115 wrote:
pizzamogul wrote:
After watching some World Cup matches, I'm certain the new client needs:

/vuvuzela


It really doesn't


Agree, ban the vuvzela. Evil or Very Mad

Watching the WC games gets very annoying hearing the constant drone for 90+ minutes. I hate those things. I love hearing a roaring, boisterous crowd, but those things just wear on you.
Were_M_Eye



Joined: Sep 24, 2007

Post   Posted: Jun 14, 2010 - 21:19 Reply with quote Back to top

WhatBall wrote:
WC games

Tihi, sounds like the kind of game people play after eating a bad burrito.
WhatBall



Joined: Aug 21, 2008

Post   Posted: Jun 14, 2010 - 21:33 Reply with quote Back to top

Were_M_Eye wrote:
WhatBall wrote:
WC games

Tihi, sounds like the kind of game people play after eating a bad burrito.


Laughing

...and it sounds like a vuvuzela too!
Snappy_Dresser



Joined: Feb 11, 2005

Post   Posted: Jun 15, 2010 - 00:40 Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah! Ban vulvas!*


*Although this being FUMBBL and all, the ban may be academic.

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Sighcrow



Joined: Nov 16, 2007

Post   Posted: Jun 15, 2010 - 07:13 Reply with quote Back to top

Hmm what about /toast... Oh my god the quarterback is Toast
From DieHard he he
JanMattys



Joined: Feb 29, 2004

Post   Posted: Jun 15, 2010 - 09:53 Reply with quote Back to top

SillySod wrote:
Spectators demanding fouls has very little to do with tactics.


False.

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NoCoolNickLeft



Joined: Mar 30, 2010

Post   Posted: Jun 15, 2010 - 10:02 Reply with quote Back to top

If people do different because of emotes, maybe that is problem and not the emotes available?
JanMattys



Joined: Feb 29, 2004

Post   Posted: Jun 15, 2010 - 10:10 Reply with quote Back to top

On the other hand, I'd be pissed if my opponent changed plans because 70+ specs told him to.
Spectators are there for their own amusement, but they shouldn't have an impact on the game. Ever.

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NoCoolNickLeft



Joined: Mar 30, 2010

Post   Posted: Jun 15, 2010 - 10:14 Reply with quote Back to top

Can you make some sound only work for spectator, just like writing?

And yes, i can understand that it is stupid if opponent change game, but if people wana make him change, they just write to him "foul this or that" or what they write. spectators reward fouls with hurt and cheer already for more encourage, yes?
Chingis



Joined: Jul 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Jun 15, 2010 - 12:59 Reply with quote Back to top

JanMattys wrote:
SillySod wrote:
Spectators demanding fouls has very little to do with tactics.


False.


Even with three noises currently, if the opponent is on the floor and your DP is roaming around and hasn't moved yet, if someone clicks "/hurt" I don't think you have to be the sharpest screwdriver in the box to guess what they want you to do!

I think crowd interaction is good and you shouldn't worry overly, but all the noises should be retrospective so as not to make it too blatant (i.e. "He's dead!" rather than "Kill him!").
maysrill



Joined: Dec 29, 2008

Post   Posted: Jun 15, 2010 - 13:47 Reply with quote Back to top

JanMattys wrote:
SillySod wrote:
Spectators demanding fouls has very little to do with tactics.


False.


Well, it makes it clear that the spectators want a foul. It really doesn't help the players strategically though; spectators cheer for the blood, not for the best game outcome.

If you just knocked down a ST4 wardancer in T8 of the first half and have the ball, many spectators would prefer you to make the gang foul, even with the eye on you, before trying to score. The guy who plays the winner of the game would be the one leading the cheers, too.

Until we start having detailed cheers like "Chain push the ball carrier free!" or "You can make 3 blocks and surf that blitzer!" I wouldn't worry too much about the crowd giving practical advice.

This is very different from being in spectator chat and hearing actual strategy debated and who thinks what play is best.
JanMattys



Joined: Feb 29, 2004

Post   Posted: Jun 15, 2010 - 14:45 Reply with quote Back to top

maysrill wrote:
JanMattys wrote:
SillySod wrote:
Spectators demanding fouls has very little to do with tactics.


False.


Well, it makes it clear that the spectators want a foul. It really doesn't help the players strategically though; spectators cheer for the blood, not for the best game outcome.

If you just knocked down a ST4 wardancer in T8 of the first half and have the ball, many spectators would prefer you to make the gang foul, even with the eye on you, before trying to score. The guy who plays the winner of the game would be the one leading the cheers, too.

Until we start having detailed cheers like "Chain push the ball carrier free!" or "You can make 3 blocks and surf that blitzer!" I wouldn't worry too much about the crowd giving practical advice.


Of course it is very different.
But "while X is certainly wrong, Y is very different from X" makes a very poor argument.
Both X and Y have the common trait of suggesting game moves. X is clearly wrong, Y not so much, but I'd gladly just use the Zs which can be totally neutral.

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