CastleMan
Joined: Apr 26, 2013
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Jan 20, 2014 - 17:49 |
 
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So I have been wondering which is a better route to take. This is regarding big guys(ogres, krox, trolls) who dont get G access unless doubles. Tackle has its advantages for dealing out more damage and putting a damper on plyers dodging away. Dodge helps with survival and pairs really well with BT. So I ask the masses, which do you prefer on your big guy? |
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p4m
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jan 20, 2014 - 17:59 |
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After Block and Pro (or Claw if its available)? Dodge! |
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the.tok
Joined: Jan 25, 2006
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Jan 20, 2014 - 18:03 |
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Depends on which big guy TBH
Loner Big guys? does the rest of the team have easy access to tackle? what is the role of this big guy? roadblock? ball-carrier? hitter?
Surehands and pro can be option, or even claws/tentacles.
But to stay on topic, most of the time I would take dodge... or pro |
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PainState
Joined: Apr 04, 2007
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Jan 20, 2014 - 18:05 |
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Tackle if you are talking about a Stunty big guy. Dodge if you are talking about a R/B/L big guy. |
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cthol
Joined: Nov 10, 2003
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Jan 20, 2014 - 18:05 |
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Dodge! But, I am looking at doing a Pact Mino build where I take Dodge on the first double, and Juggernaut in place of block. Dodge pairs wonderfully with Break Tackle, and Juggernaut is a S skill, available on a normal roll. He would be blitzing almost every turn anyway. If he gets a second double, then tackle. He would be vulnerable to a Pow/Skull on defence, but tackle will I think more than make up for this: 3 dice blocks with tackle & MB, using BT / Dodge, would be sweet. Another double, and I think I would take 2 Heads: dodge into a cage and splat the carrier. I don't rate Pro at all: I'd rather spend the TV on a skill that I know will work every turn. |
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gamelsetlmatch
Joined: Mar 05, 2013
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Jan 20, 2014 - 18:19 |
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Chaos Mino->Block->Tents->Dodge
CD Mino-Claws->Tents->Block
Chaos Pact Ogre->Block->Tents->Claw
Chaos Pact Mino->Claw->Tents->Block
Chaos Pact Troll->Block->Tents->Claw
Dwarf Roller->Block->Dodge->Sure Feet
Goblin Troll->Pass->Pro->Dodge
Goblin B&C->Block->Sure Feet->Sprint
Halfling Tree->JU->Block->Pass
Human Ogre-Block->Dodge->SS
Khemri TG's->Block->Dodge->Tackle
Lizardman Krox->Block->Dodge->Frenzy
Norse Snow Troll->Block->JU->Tackle
Nurgle BoN->Block->Claw->Dodge
Ogre Team Ogres...you are on your own
Orc Troll-Block->Dodge->Pro
Skaven Rat Ogre->Claw->Block->JU
Slann Krox->Block->Dodge->Tackle
Undead Mummies->Block->Dodge->Tackle
Underworld Troll->Block->Pass->Dodge
Wood Elf Tree->JU->Block->Dodge |
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xnoelx
Joined: Jun 05, 2012
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Jan 20, 2014 - 18:27 |
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| gamelsetlmatch wrote: | Chaos Mino->Block->Tents->Dodge
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Tents is a normal for a Chaos mino. |
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gamelsetlmatch
Joined: Mar 05, 2013
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Jan 20, 2014 - 18:29 |
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| xnoelx wrote: | | gamelsetlmatch wrote: | Chaos Mino->Block->Tents->Dodge
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Tents is a normal for a Chaos mino. |
Oops, sry. Block->Dodge->JU then |
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ErobererZim
Joined: Dec 19, 2009
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Jan 20, 2014 - 18:30 |
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I like pro, or Frenzy as Second Double. |
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Tzij
Joined: May 01, 2011
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Jan 20, 2014 - 18:32 |
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It depends what you want the Big Guy to do on the team.
Azure has had a lot of success with a Killer ROgre Same Axe, who went without defensive skills to maximize his killing potential.
Tackle isn't very common choice for Big Guys in regular Blood Bowl. Generally speaking, people prefer Block, Dodge and Pro, unless they have mutation access on doubles, then Tents and Claw becoming popular. |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Jan 20, 2014 - 19:22 |
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DP |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Jan 20, 2014 - 19:24 |
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then leap |
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DrDeath
Joined: Mar 27, 2011
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Jan 20, 2014 - 19:25 |
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What Tzij said for 'normal' Blood Bowl, but in Stunty I'd definitely take Tackle instead - lethal. And besides, there isn't as much for a big guy to dodge from in Stunty! |
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harvestmouse
Joined: May 13, 2007
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Jan 20, 2014 - 19:30 |
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| PainState wrote: | | Tackle if you are talking about a Stunty big guy. Dodge if you are talking about a R/B/L big guy. |
My thoughts exactly. The thing you have to remember, how easy is it to get a 2 die hit on a big guy with an ST 3 tackle player? Not easy if he's supported.
How many ST 4 or more players have tackle? Not many.
I'd still go dodge in Stunty, but I play an attrition game. Tackle is probably a better option though, but I think blockle/MB is a bit broken in stunty so I try not to take it. |
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PaddyMick
Joined: Jan 03, 2012
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Jan 20, 2014 - 19:30 |
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On bash teams with guard i find big guys don't have to take too many 2d blocks so i'd only go dodge if they have or are planning to take break tackle. Tackle is great for the reasons you've stated.
On non bash teams, dodge could be better (i wouldnt know) |
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