wintergreen13
Joined: Apr 10, 2011
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Apr 24, 2023 - 01:14 |
 
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| remetagross wrote: | | The Vamps really are even worse than in BB2016, despite all the theorycrafting that they might not. |
As Nelphine noted, coaches tend not to play vampires very long... and I can say from experience that I understand why! Getting them off the ground is an absolute nightmare - they need skills desperately, are too expensive for randoms (at least for me - I suppose there might be some maniacs out there crushing randoms on their vampires), and the team just doesn't work well until they do. However, I played them in NCBB where MVP is still a D3 choice and they start to become quite a fun and powerful team after a while, though it remains to be seen if they are viable in the BCS. Dutchlife has been playing them with decent success as well in NWBL (and even in some past Majors). Honestly, I would love to see a top coach take a vampire team 40 games or so in C and get them humming for tournament runs. If they can survive the first salvo, they even have some ways to deal with bombers. |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Apr 24, 2023 - 12:41 |
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No MVP nomination and Season Re-Draft are both bad for Vampires.
Permanent injuries are more common as well, thus Apo is less useful to keep a Vampire on the pitch.
If they started with Pro they would be a bit less frustrating to develop. |
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Lokragen
Joined: Aug 20, 2015
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Apr 24, 2023 - 15:01 |
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We should start the hashtag #iamvampire
I wonder how the t1 ranking would be without the wins against the t2, a ranking of t1 only |
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spelledaren
Joined: Mar 06, 2004
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Apr 24, 2023 - 15:08 |
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spelledaren
Joined: Mar 06, 2004
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Apr 24, 2023 - 15:11 |
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Tier 1 here is Norse, Tomb Kings, DE and Necromantic.
Norse goes 48, 55, 48 vs the others.
Tomb Kings 52, 45, 48.
DE 45, 55, 48.
Necromantic at 52, 52, 52 - best out the internal tier 1 fight. |
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Lokragen
Joined: Aug 20, 2015
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Apr 24, 2023 - 15:40 |
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I meant without the t2s influencing the victories of the t1 and t0 |
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RDaneel
Joined: Feb 24, 2023
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Apr 24, 2023 - 16:30 |
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spelledaren
Joined: Mar 06, 2004
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Apr 24, 2023 - 18:50 |
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| Lokragen wrote: | | I meant without the t2s influencing the victories of the t1 and t0 |
Yes, in the roster stats you can look at the win percentages of specific rosters against each other. |
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Lokragen
Joined: Aug 20, 2015
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Apr 24, 2023 - 20:32 |
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oh yes! thx , sorry for my google english ^^ |
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Lokragen
Joined: Aug 20, 2015
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Apr 24, 2023 - 21:54 |
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oh yes! thx , sorry for my google english ^^ |
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spelledaren
Joined: Mar 06, 2004
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Apr 25, 2023 - 08:22 |
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Looking at the top 9, everyone above the tier 1, it is clear that snotlings are mostly getting destroyed in that competition. A signal that their status here could be overrated.
Amazons have a massive win advantage against all teams outside of the top 9, and look good in this set too, but they lose vs CD and dorfs (badly).
Dwarf teams have the most match ups here where they win big, but they struggle vs orcs and Undead. Orcs is the only team in the set without any clear nemesis, while also being clearly ahead four of the others.
Total win percentage has Dorfs on top, 2% ahead of UW and 7 ahead of orcs. UW have several good match ups here it seems.
I’d be inclined to call the top competition for orcs, but their worst record is vs UW and amazon teams… |
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spelledaren
Joined: Mar 06, 2004
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Apr 25, 2023 - 08:25 |
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Also Skaven don’t win against any of the others at the top, so could maybe be relegated to ordinary tier 1 with snotlings. |
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spelledaren
Joined: Mar 06, 2004
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Apr 25, 2023 - 08:34 |
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Tomb Kings and Necromantic actually keep a fair pace with the top 9 - except getting completely wrecked by Amazons and UW, which keeps them out of the top. |
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spelledaren
Joined: Mar 06, 2004
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Apr 25, 2023 - 08:50 |
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If we make a new top 7 without Skaven and Snotlings orcs get the highest win percentage in that group. |
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Lokragen
Joined: Aug 20, 2015
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Apr 25, 2023 - 09:52 |
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It is like the humans who are overestimated with their victory against the t2, because against the t1 it is more complicated |
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