gken1
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nov 14, 2004 - 17:27 |
 
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Rule of 11 for setting up for drive -> will come
IP Rule -> lose rr if you got one, opp gain rr if you don't
Stunned to Prone as a non-action -> free action
Riot, Get the Ref, Blitz, and Pitch Invasion -> Riot add or
subtract a turn depending on what turn it is, get the ref...both
teams, Blitz..only players not in opponent tacklezones, PI only
stuns
Hypnotic Gaze -> Used during mv action but ends move and is agil
roll
Regeneration -> roll immediately
Shadowing -> only shadow active player
Take Root -> changed to on pitch
Chaos Dwarf team -> 70k rr
Ogre team -> Official
Rat Ogre -> AG2
Vampire team -> Official
Trophy/Leader re-rolls for Big Guys -> bye bye
No General skill access for Big Guys.
Handicap table -> half of handicaps disappear
Rule of 1 and 6 for FF -> gone
Pro -> pro skill again
well that's most of it. |
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Grumbledook
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nov 14, 2004 - 17:37 |
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does hyp gaze lose -1 per tacklezone as well? |
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BadMrMojo
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nov 14, 2004 - 17:37 |
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Overall, sounds good.
Pros
- handicap table changes. Yay!
- On pitch Take Root
- Pro skill
- Riot/Blitz changes
- rule of 11
Cons
- Get the Ref changes
- 1 and 6 of FF - boo!
- Ogre and Vamp teams still suck - no pun intended
Edit: Actually, I think the vamps are ok to go. OFAB makes them too weak, perhaps, but I don't mind adding a fluffy, substandard team. I definitely mind it less than adding the excrutiatingly 1-dimensional Ogre team, which basically overwrites the goblin team and then goes on to surpass pretty much everyone in terms of the bash. Adding a bashy team = ok. Adding a team which can only be started with one reasonable roster and one reasonable play style, can potentially break pretty much any league at high TR and is made up of everything that another team possesses, only better = NOT ok.
The biggest thing, I think, is the Gen access for BGs. I find myself not really caring either way. Heh. Go figure. |
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gken1
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nov 14, 2004 - 17:41 |
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| Grumbledook wrote: | | does hyp gaze lose -1 per tacklezone as well? |
yeah..remember reading something like that  |
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Glomp
Joined: Jan 04, 2004
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Nov 14, 2004 - 17:41 |
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Big guys losing gen access, without having access to the new skill tables???
Erm... |
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Grumbledook
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nov 14, 2004 - 18:59 |
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get the ref changes blow
as do the 1 6 for ff rule |
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Tinkywinky
Joined: Aug 25, 2003
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Nov 14, 2004 - 19:15 |
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YES no rule of 6 on FF, I would love that more than anything! All my teams have winning records but not a single one has a FF over 11 and more then one of them has been down under 5 FF, I really hated it.
I think all changes are good. |
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Eddy
Joined: Aug 04, 2004
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Nov 14, 2004 - 19:24 |
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'sall good babe |
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Colin
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nov 15, 2004 - 16:02 |
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Without much Block or Tackle at high TR, the Ogres won't be as dangerous as, say, Khemri. They'll still have games were they get lucky, though. They still won't be official, so fair enough - suck it and see. Good point about lack of skills - not enough skills for that rare Ogre that makes it to 7 skill rolls and doesn't roll a double. I presume they get to pick a double in that case. For FUMBBL, grandfathering will raise it's ugly head, however.
Rule of 11 - one-turners can't hide anymore at least there's no nasty PI to kill your team when you are forced to field 11 players.
Half the handicaps 'disappear'? SkiJunkie had nightmares enough adding them in the first place, now he has to change the table again...
Some of these changes actually bring the game into line with how the client works; Regenerate, Stunned to Prone, Leader RR on BGs. |
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buzzrocks
Joined: Sep 15, 2003
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Nov 15, 2004 - 16:42 |
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i suppose though that you wont need to roll Wild animal/very stupid/bonehead to roll over now.... |
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Mully
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nov 15, 2004 - 18:39 |
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Wow!
The biggest shame is that with all these tweaks to make the rules better, they may "unravel" it all with stupid vault rules. I am secretly hoping these rules changes will be viewed favorable and vault will die a quick death.
Whoever is reading this from the rules committee - "well done, you got it right this time." |
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Korso
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nov 15, 2004 - 18:52 |
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The FF rule change sucks! And the Ogre team sucks even more! I don't mean that it isn't a good team to play with - I think it's TOO good. I won't play much against the Ogre team, if it stays like that. |
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tautology
Joined: Jan 30, 2004
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Nov 15, 2004 - 19:14 |
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Ogre team with no Block or Tackle or Sure Hands isn't very threatening, IMO.
Kudos for the new FF rules! I have suffered too long the indignity of winning teams who simply could not be maintained due to abyssmal FF rolls and aging (which is also gone I believe). |
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gken1
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Nov 15, 2004 - 19:30 |
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tautology
Joined: Jan 30, 2004
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Nov 15, 2004 - 19:40 |
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Oh well. I suppose something has to keep those elf teams under control.... |
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