Mr_QB
Joined: Jul 16, 2004
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Apr 28, 2005 - 13:57 |
 
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if your talkin about that -st one then yes just needs to select the skill for the gutter |
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Nordmark
Joined: Sep 09, 2004
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Apr 28, 2005 - 13:58 |
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| Tinkywinky wrote: | | Picking FA on this kind of player would be one of the worst wastes of a skill that I have ever seen. |
Nah. Don´t forget that troll with leader 
I would go with FA. Make him annoying as hell with block passblock divingtackle sidestep. |
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Pulpo_Fiction
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Apr 28, 2005 - 14:02 |
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Horns Block Tackle would be my choice... |
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Pmg
Joined: Nov 24, 2003
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Apr 28, 2005 - 14:02 |
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FA sounds like an horrible option for a st3 gutter, what a waste. I would go horns without hesitating, but even VLL or BH would be a better option. 31 for fa and passblock with no block in such a valuable player (st+double)???? NO WAY. |
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Zarathustra
Joined: Jun 15, 2004
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Apr 28, 2005 - 14:07 |
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AFK_Eagle
Joined: Mar 12, 2004
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Apr 28, 2005 - 16:10 |
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Depends on the roll you envision for him...
Blitzer? Horns, hands down...as said before, can't rely upon the other gutters getting another double...
Scorer? VLL, followed up by sprint and then horns on another double...a OTS who doesn't dodge his way to the endzone, he plows THROUGH defenders to get there...
Ball retrieval? Big hand, followed up by strip ball THEN block/tackle, horns on another double...
Not commonly seen, but incredible annoying? Prehensile tail, to go along with block/sidestep/shadowing/tackle...(note...NOT diving tackle, you want to follow along and make maximum use of that tail giving -1 dodge, tackle preventing dodge free rerolls...)...the str 3 means he has to commit more assists to getting you off, especially elven catchers and the like...
The FA/passblock route is always viable for gutters, but I would hesitate to use the str 3 guy in such a manner. You don't need strength to intercept passes, so when you have strength it's best to make use of it...
And the ultimate piss-off factor? Give him claw, to be followed with rsc at a later date...then play him as a very mobile linerat...I can tell you from personal experience, if you put claw/rsc on a gutter, it drastically changes the entire gameplan of your opponent, often in ways you can anticipate and take advantage of...there's just something about the combination of skills on a mv 9 agi 4 player which scares the bejeebers out of the other team...don't know why... |
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Jinxed
Joined: Jul 04, 2004
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Apr 28, 2005 - 18:18 |
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After reading what many have said I'd either go for VLL or horns.
VLL to make him a scorer/VERY mobile blitzer or horns for 'just' a blitzer.
Probably horns I think. Scoring potential never was a problem with rats... |
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Gueulemer
Joined: Oct 25, 2004
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Apr 28, 2005 - 18:34 |
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Honestly, let's be serious...
Horns? With the team I've seen, 2 dauntless gutters, it would be a waste.
FA is very interesting as it will help that gutter to get to the next level... alive!
To blitz a st3 gutter with FA, dodge and eventualy block will be such a pain is the a.. for the opposition. THe blitzer in question would need greater strenght or support and tackle to be efficient. And also luck, to not get 1 on the dice.
Ask AFK_Eagle, he's been playing a lot with skavens lately, and take a look at his gutter Shinai from Weapon Masters team. FA is amazing. And Shinai doesn't have st3...
Gutters are so precious, +st players also are, sogive the lad some extra protection, would you? |
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Uber
Joined: Mar 22, 2004
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Apr 28, 2005 - 19:09 |
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I'd go for FA, Block, Side Step. All of these make him harder to block and ultimately a great ball carrier. Most people don't realize that the chances of making vs. failing a 2 dice block(assuming no dodge or tackle on attacker) are 55.56% vs. 44.44%, which makes a push a very likely result. If you have your opponent blow away his re-roll on FA, if not stopping the block altogether, your chances of being left standing are much higher. Strength is a great protection since it makes 3 dice blocks much harder to get on him. What I'm suggesting also peaks early and doesn't require any other doubles to reach maximum effectiveness. Block, Side Step and Pass Block make great addition to such a player. I would get FA for the purpose of making him an interceptor of any kind, but just for its defensive function. |
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Patonius2000
Joined: Jun 03, 2004
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Apr 28, 2005 - 19:16 |
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horns, develop him as blitzer, he already has claw |
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Mr_QB
Joined: Jul 16, 2004
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Apr 28, 2005 - 19:17 |
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he has just picked claw  |
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Nuffle should have stayed in his cursed mother's womb, she should have had pity on our lost souls and killed nuffle while she still had the chance. |
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Patonius2000
Joined: Jun 03, 2004
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Apr 28, 2005 - 19:18 |
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he sure has  |
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Nordmark
Joined: Sep 09, 2004
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Apr 28, 2005 - 19:24 |
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Twist everything around so that you develop your gutters to blitzers and stormvermin as ballcarriers. You are almost there already anyway |
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Mr_QB
Joined: Jul 16, 2004
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Apr 28, 2005 - 19:56 |
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yeah it's getting close =) |
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Nuffle should have stayed in his cursed mother's womb, she should have had pity on our lost souls and killed nuffle while she still had the chance. |
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mymLaban
Joined: Apr 20, 2004
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Apr 28, 2005 - 19:58 |
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i would go for a killer with Razor sharp claws |
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