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What is this thing you humans call sportsmanship?
If it is impossible to agree that purposely destroying someone's team instead of scoring when there is no tactical reason to stall, and you have effectively already gotten to a point where it is not possible for your opponent to win the game is bad sportsmanship, can we at least agree that bragging and saying how awesome you are the entire time is bad sportsmanship?

Or at least just a bit pathetic? Not only to destroy someone's team just to do it instead of taking easy scores, but to give yourself pretty much a constant pat on the back the entire time at just how awesome you are because the RNG says so?

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Posted by Overhamsteren on 2014-09-17 03:45:48
Well the good thing about Ranked is that you only have to play the coach once, ever...
Posted by Relezite on 2014-09-17 03:52:18
It's about culture. The FUMBBL culture is 'suck it up, you're not allowed to be upset when your guys die.'
Posted by Wreckage on 2014-09-17 04:03:40
We live in a global village and it's multicultural ;). Whatever your stance on an issue is, expect some people to disagree with you.
Posted by Relezite on 2014-09-17 04:21:02
There's always a dominate culture. Why do you think the term 'pixel-hugger' became so popular? It's a catch phrase for the dominate FUMBBL culture to make sure the others know how its supposed to be.

The point of the blog, though painfully redundant, continues to be valid. Basically people behave online in ways that local play groups would find unsportsmanlike. It'll always be the case on the internet though.
Posted by MonkeyMan576 on 2014-09-17 04:38:41
This is a game called "blood bowl", and people get mad when their team is destroyed? How pathetic.
Posted by Lorebass on 2014-09-17 04:39:29
at a tourney someone should call someone else a pixel hugger and wait for response
Posted by Relezite on 2014-09-17 04:46:45
Its also worth pointing out that some coaches are A LOT better than others. Rubbing salt in the wound with needless gloating and grind up players seems kind of pathetic.
Posted by MonkeyMan576 on 2014-09-17 04:52:56
If you have a problem with getting beat by better coaches, don't play better coaches.
Posted by Dunenzed on 2014-09-17 05:01:02
This game encourages a story telling element within it. Be it the rich history of fictional teams and superstars within the original rules, or the simple act of naming players and teams.

So anyone who's not doing a little bit of pixel hugging is playing it wrong in my book. And thats regardless of division.

Posted by pythrr on 2014-09-17 05:34:44
oh stop whining.

i lost a 600+ spp player today, and laughed about it

less whining sir
Posted by MonkeyMan576 on 2014-09-17 05:46:42
It's fine to like your players, it's not fine to go off on other coaches for not liking your players.
Posted by Pentalarc on 2014-09-17 06:13:04
Perhaps I should rephrase:

Beating me at a game of bloodbowl. Not a problem, doesn't even register.
Killing my players (strategically). Not a problem, it's part of the game.
Trying to kill players instead of scoring. Dumb in my opinion, because running up the score usually gets more spp, and somewhat poor sportsmanship to a degree, but not that big a deal.

COnstantly patting yourself on the back while doing it: *Really really annoying*.
Posted by Badoek on 2014-09-17 06:27:39
Lol, I don't think I've ever encountered such an opponent. He sounds awful!
Posted by Meltyman on 2014-09-17 07:10:17
if you are stalling to make a td (good plan btw), you should also kill all of the opponents players while at it, it is a valid strategy to not let your team get killed.
Posted by Wreckage on 2014-09-17 07:18:53
I dunno, I have an issue with people who do not play to win.. but that is some accusation that one should be careful about. Generally speaking reaking havoc helps.
Posted by Relezite on 2014-09-17 07:44:03
It's not doing it that's an issue. It's being a tool about it while doing it that is.
Posted by the_Sage on 2014-09-17 09:01:11
Choose your opponents wisely. A lot of people on the site are actually fun to play. Some will beat their chest as they destroy your team. Best to steer clear imo.
Posted by the_Sage on 2014-09-17 09:01:54
Unless it's Carlo, of course. He will beat his chest as he destroys your team, or as you destroy his. And he's just fun. =D
Posted by koadah on 2014-09-17 10:52:05
Wreckage :"We live in a global village and it's multicultural ;). Whatever your stance on an issue is, expect some people to disagree with you."

It's way, way worse than that.

Many coaches will play the game in a completely different way depending on how they feel that day. :D

I keep hearing that this is a table top vs internet issue. I don't think so. I think it is a small group vs large group issue.
When I play TT it is quite definitely kill all menz. I generally wouldn't play the same way on Fumbbl because of the expected bitching and whining.

I do not play [R]anked because I figure (maybe incorrectly) that I am more likely to draw a whiner.

The issue really is that you often don't know what you are going to get. In a pre tournament team pimp game I may well be an ultimate pixel hugger. My next game may be more 'death or glory'. You won't know without asking me. That would probably be against the rules. ;)

I was invited to join a group called the Gentleman's Club. I almost declined on grounds of not being a gentleman. ;)
As it turns out playing a few games in gentlemanly manner works just fine. I just wouldn't want to do it every game. ;)

In a small group people know what is expected of them. If they don't like it they don't have to join. If they don't toe the line you can kick them out.

People want the speed of getting a game that huge leagues give them but often can't handle the 'variety of styles' that they may come across.
So yeah, if you want huge league matchmaking speed you are gonna have to suck it up to some extent.
Posted by Royston on 2014-09-17 12:12:36
@pythrr coincidentally I killed a 600+ spp player yesterday while playing against you - isn't the interwebs a small place!?
Posted by Chainsaw on 2014-09-17 13:47:07
As somebody who has played Pentalarc enough times to know he is anything but a whiner, some of the negative responses here are a bit disappointing.

If you are dominating the dice, are 5+ players up, then continue to stall whilst bragging about your skills and fouling to do more damage instead of just scoring and being cool about the savage dice, then it is poor sportsmanship. Pentalarc is not saying "don't foul my menz" or "don't kill my teams" but saying, "When you're dicing me to pieces, don't be a dick." That is, frankly, totally and utterly reasonable.

I'm sure if said person had not been bragging and not been fouling the few remaining menz whilst pointlessly stalling, Pentalarc would not be blogging about it here. He'd have just sucked it up - as he always has in the same situation vs me - and moved onto the next game.

At the end of the day, it is a 2 player game and you should be considerate of your opponent's time. There are coaches on here only indulge themselves, and playing them is an exercise in patience and anger management.
Posted by koadah on 2014-09-17 14:38:48
I'm not saying that Pentalarc is a whiner. He's a Gentleman. :D

But without the naming & shaming what is the point of this blog? ;)

I don't recall this happening in 1000+ matches. So what are we gonna do if we don't have a witch to burn?

He could be talking about someone we mostly agree is a right arse. But for all we know he's talking about someone who we found to be a good laugh.

I wouldn't want to play Buskopanz every day but I enjoyed the game that I did play.
My team never played again though. ;)

If for example the other team was full of CPOMBers I would consider it completely acceptable to stall, foul and cheer every death whatever the turn, score or number of players remaining.

Let me know what the spirit of the game is and I'll play to that. But I definitely don't want every game to have the same spirit.
Posted by SerenadeOfSorrow on 2014-09-17 15:10:22
i have never heard pentalarc whine ...ive been known to whine ive never seen him do it ..infact the other day i killed one of his great players and his reply was...i get to build a new one lol thats the kind of attitude i want
Posted by pythrr on 2014-09-17 18:10:03
if you kill all their mens, there is no one left to whine about it

Posted by IndiJuno on 2014-09-17 18:20:13
I havnt heard him whine either, yeh sounds pretty pathetic to me too. I think whoever it was wouldn't enjoy the same situation done back to him. be nice to your fellow coach, even when you put the boot in.
Posted by keggiemckill on 2014-09-17 19:04:39
This conversation reminds me of one I had with all the other boys in our grade 3 class. It was about who were nose pickers and who were not nose pickers. I was declared to not be a nose picker. This was only because they didn't see me pick at it. Everyone is a nose picker at one point of their life, just like everyone at one point whines. Whether you see them do it, THAT is the question. Wait, what was the question?
Posted by Wreckage on 2014-09-17 19:09:03
I think some people just talk about the meaning of sportsmanship in this blog while others are more concerned with whether pentalarc had a truely horrible opponent and wheter or not he is a whiner. It's just two separate issues. ;) But I suppose also just another reason to fight in a multicultural place with different perceptions of things.
Not objecting to anything Koadah added about this tho.

I find it always amazing how the ethics of coaches are so easily changed by the setup of the rules. I guess there is a point in adjusting the own ethics to them, sometimes I just wonder if people are even still aware of it after a time.

When the timeout button came out there was initially a huge support for timing somebody out for whatever reason. Most coaches agreed that it was just part of the game. Some time later there were made adminstrative restrictions on when to time out. Suddenly the majority agreed that timing somebody was something to be avoided.

Acting ethically in a sense only becomes really relevant when you enter a grey area of the rules.

Fouling is considered ethical here because it is not a grey area, it is perfectly legal.

Bitching, bickering and whining is somewhat of a grey area, when you push it too far, you get in trouble. Of course not every new coach knows that, so that can worsen the problem.

When I'm in game I am way more concerned with the course of the game to worry about what my opponent might say to me. So I believe the fouling and ignoring ball part is the part that could actually hurt me. On the other hand I would know I have to suck it up because it's part of the game I love.
If somebody who is acting like that however starts to be a prick, his prickness while usually it wouldn't concern me, opens a grey area in the site rules now that allows me to respond to the attitude he uses to play the game.

I think, regardless of what the majority believes, it is fine to not feel like the opponent is very sporting when he is doing the team in unnecessarily. I understand that the situation with table top is a bit different and I can see why this attitude is carried over to this place and also why people, like me, abandon that it's called BLOODbowl attitude to a degree after a while.

Essentially when you play with your friends the social aspect is in the foreground, you meet with your friends you try to have a good time, it's not all about winning. The social aspect on Fumbbl is relevant but is certainly not in the foreground. As an example I could mention that adressing political issues on the site pisses some people incredibly off or in lucky cases makes them irresponsive while with my friends there would never be a doubt that discussing them during the game is essential to have a good time. The social game where you talk and have a good time is rather the 'pleasant' exception.

Posted by Wreckage on 2014-09-17 19:18:17
Didn't there use to be a prick rule in the rule book? Whenever you score a TD you are allowed to do a victory dance and laugh at your opponent or something?
Posted by keggiemckill on 2014-09-18 02:12:35
I thought that was an unwritten rule.
Posted by Wreckage on 2014-09-18 04:32:23
No nope, it used to be in the rulebook, they just edited out the fluff at some point.