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2015-11-18 19:17:32
10 votes, rating 5.4
10 votes, rating 5.4
Getting better...
Lately when I've been playing games, I've been more conscious of the decisions I've been making and seeing the game several turns ahead. However I don't always feel this translates to better performance from me; more a sort of awareness as to how my opponent will take me apart.
So I guess my question is: what did you do to become a better player. I'm not talking about what teams you play to win games, more what lessons did you learn to improve your play.
CPOMB all menz is the smark answer, thought I'd say it first.
So I guess my question is: what did you do to become a better player. I'm not talking about what teams you play to win games, more what lessons did you learn to improve your play.
CPOMB all menz is the smark answer, thought I'd say it first.
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Posted by JimmyFantastic on 2015-11-18 19:39:07
Start by following me on twitch :D http://www.twitch.tv/jimmyfantastic
Posted by pythrr on 2015-11-18 19:39:45
smark all mens
Posted by Antithesisoftime on 2015-11-18 19:40:29
Dwarves taught me to be very mindful of my positioning.
Skaven taught me how to screen without needing to mark men
Vampires taught me to throw caution to the wind and take chances when the game is on the line
Ogres taught me to just accept the dice-rape and move on
Finally, Nurgle, Chaos, Pact, and Chaos Dwarves taught me that clawPOMB is a lot more fun to play with then to play against
Skaven taught me how to screen without needing to mark men
Vampires taught me to throw caution to the wind and take chances when the game is on the line
Ogres taught me to just accept the dice-rape and move on
Finally, Nurgle, Chaos, Pact, and Chaos Dwarves taught me that clawPOMB is a lot more fun to play with then to play against
Posted by mekutata on 2015-11-18 19:58:03
t16 fouls will help
Posted by jdm on 2015-11-18 19:59:01
Thanks for the comment/plug/lolcenawins
I suppose an additional question is what team should you play to improve your player skill, assuming there is no personal preference.
I suppose an additional question is what team should you play to improve your player skill, assuming there is no personal preference.
Posted by Harad on 2015-11-18 20:00:05
a) watched replays of good coaches and tried to understand why they were taking the decisions they were.
b) I played a lot of different races from which I learned a lot.
c) I moved to play in the box so that I had to take on challenges and couldn't dodge them.
b) I played a lot of different races from which I learned a lot.
c) I moved to play in the box so that I had to take on challenges and couldn't dodge them.
Posted by licker on 2015-11-18 20:57:24
Played in leagues. Leagues with coaches better than I was.
When I knew a week in advance what the matchup was going to be I could game plan for it. Then when I played the game I would learn why my plan was bad, or sometimes it worked!
Eventually the down time required to understand how to approach different matchups disappeared.
Which can likely happen just from playing enough in R or B, but you usually don't get much time to think through an overall strategy, so L matches are better, you can identify the players you need to deal with, you can formulate a strategy to deal with them, and likewise you can formulate a strategy to keep your key players safe, or at least how you envision they would be best used.
After a few seasons in a few leagues I found I could instantly identify just during the player marking phase of a random game who I would need to deal with, who I would need to pay attention to, and who I could basically ignore.
Things got much easier at that point.
When I knew a week in advance what the matchup was going to be I could game plan for it. Then when I played the game I would learn why my plan was bad, or sometimes it worked!
Eventually the down time required to understand how to approach different matchups disappeared.
Which can likely happen just from playing enough in R or B, but you usually don't get much time to think through an overall strategy, so L matches are better, you can identify the players you need to deal with, you can formulate a strategy to deal with them, and likewise you can formulate a strategy to keep your key players safe, or at least how you envision they would be best used.
After a few seasons in a few leagues I found I could instantly identify just during the player marking phase of a random game who I would need to deal with, who I would need to pay attention to, and who I could basically ignore.
Things got much easier at that point.
Posted by Mr_Foulscumm on 2015-11-18 20:58:56
The correct answer is:
Play Stunty Leeg.
Join in the fun!
Play Stunty Leeg.
Join in the fun!
Posted by Verminardo on 2015-11-18 21:58:36
You can read playbooks and tactics guides but you won't be able to apply most of the advice, at first.
You can spec matches and watch replays and check how good coaches skill their teams, but you won't understand most of what's going on, at first.
That's not saying you shouldn't do those things. But you shouldn't expect instant improvement. On the contrary, at first things will get harder, as you try to play more carefully. You will still make many mistakes but you won't succeed at crazy risky stuff, because you're not trying crazy risky stuff any more. Hang in there! It gets better eventually.
What helped me most was watching my own replays and realizing my mistakes. Then focussing on one or two things at a time and trying to improve them. Started out with things like "protect your best player" or "mind where your Tackler is" and I'm still doing it, current projects are "waste less rerolls" and "mind opponent chainpush opportunities". :-)
You can spec matches and watch replays and check how good coaches skill their teams, but you won't understand most of what's going on, at first.
That's not saying you shouldn't do those things. But you shouldn't expect instant improvement. On the contrary, at first things will get harder, as you try to play more carefully. You will still make many mistakes but you won't succeed at crazy risky stuff, because you're not trying crazy risky stuff any more. Hang in there! It gets better eventually.
What helped me most was watching my own replays and realizing my mistakes. Then focussing on one or two things at a time and trying to improve them. Started out with things like "protect your best player" or "mind where your Tackler is" and I'm still doing it, current projects are "waste less rerolls" and "mind opponent chainpush opportunities". :-)
Posted by the_Sage on 2015-11-18 22:49:56
[honest advice]
Watching more experienced coaches play helps a lot, especially when their matches are commentated (so when there's more spectators)
[shameless plug]
You could also consider watching my stream; I think I play pretty well, and I also try to explain why I do things along the way, and my viewers often point out mistakes I make, too. =)
www.twitch.tv/the_Sage_BB
[/shameless plug]
[/honest advice]
Watching more experienced coaches play helps a lot, especially when their matches are commentated (so when there's more spectators)
[shameless plug]
You could also consider watching my stream; I think I play pretty well, and I also try to explain why I do things along the way, and my viewers often point out mistakes I make, too. =)
www.twitch.tv/the_Sage_BB
[/shameless plug]
[/honest advice]