clarkin
Joined: Oct 15, 2007
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Aug 04, 2009 - 10:55 |
 
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The team's looking better already, though your two games after being decimated were both against ogres (ouch!!). How'd you get on? |
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SillySod
Joined: Oct 10, 2006
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Aug 04, 2009 - 14:46 |
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Ogre TS is fairly messed up but it isnt really an advantage for the ogres - they only have a beneficial TS for a relatively brief time and generally only if they have good skill rolls. |
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uzkulak
Joined: Mar 30, 2004
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Aug 05, 2009 - 10:41 |
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Its more the fact that because of the TR/TS difference they seem more likely to be paired up with someone with a couple of mng players. |
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odi
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Aug 05, 2009 - 11:28 |
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So far I've done it many time with my skaven team. So it is doable, but you have to get rid of all your high spp players to do it... |
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treborius
Joined: Apr 05, 2008
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Aug 05, 2009 - 18:50 |
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| CircularLogic wrote: | | but did you know, that many races cannot get a 2d block on an ogre squard, due to mass guard/ST5? That means that they have to start dodging right away, which is more unreliable, than your blockless 2d block. |
yes, actually i did  |
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Mnemon
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Aug 05, 2009 - 22:52 |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Aug 06, 2009 - 11:36 |
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Have you ever thought about not retiring every niggled player?
Healthy team > Team with nigglers > Team very undermanned
TS wise, a niggled player has his real value.
Niggling is very detrimental to a team because of Virus. Stop fearing the niggles |
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clarkin
Joined: Oct 15, 2007
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Aug 06, 2009 - 12:04 |
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if you have a 6 man squad, you should NOT fire nigglers. only do it if you have 11 :/ |
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neophyte
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Aug 06, 2009 - 12:10 |
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i am not sure but could it be that some teams are harder to rebuild than other ?  |
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Ehlers
Joined: Jun 26, 2006
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Aug 06, 2009 - 12:17 |
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| neophyte wrote: | | i am not sure but could it be that some teams are harder to rebuild than other ? |
yes some teams are harder to rebuild then others.
But why retire a niggle and put a healthy player on the LOS?
If the niggler only has 1 or 2 skills and only a single niggle, then he is perfect LOSfodder. |
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Mnemon
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Aug 06, 2009 - 12:49 |
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Yes and no. That player was a Saurus on its third skill. I did keep the one or the other niggler with special skills (frenzy/standfirm) but at least in the case of Saurus feel they are so important for the team that one (or more ... where do you draw the line if you are undermanned?) niggles out things are getting even more nasty.
It's not about virus. It's about missing 1/6th of their games (more/less), which defacto means my TR/TS drops a significant amount each time it happens (especially when a skilled one goes of ... and one that had Mblow and thus was likely to increase his TR further). I might keep niggled skinks around, but then ... not really.
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Aug 06, 2009 - 13:30 |
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The Ts is reduced by 1/6, so each game where he plays, he's an extra little bonus and when he misses, he's a big minus. In average, it evens out. |
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TheCetusProject
Joined: May 25, 2004
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Aug 06, 2009 - 15:53 |
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The fewer players you have, the more TS seems to be overestimated, so I'd keep nigglers on teams with few players most of the time. |
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Paragon
Joined: Jun 12, 2005
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Aug 06, 2009 - 18:48 |
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| clarkin wrote: | | The team's looking better already, though your two games after being decimated were both against ogres (ouch!!). How'd you get on? |
After 7 rather unbalanced games, I'm happy to say I'm back up to 11 players. My record during rebuilding is the rather poor (0/2/5), and the two I tied were very very lucky. Despite my unbalanced TR (which is still unbalanced because of Ilmarinen), I only played Ogres twice, with two games versus Chaos Dwarfs, and one game a piece against Orcs, Khemri, and Dwarfs. I did not come across any bashed up teams, and gave up several handicaps instead. This was one of the hardest parts about recovery -- I don't know how many times I got Morley's, It Wasn't Me, and I am the Greatest, which made it very hard to put up any defense or mount any serious offense...
I can't say the team is in good shape yet, but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. |
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Emeyin
Joined: Apr 14, 2008
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Aug 07, 2009 - 01:45 |
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Yeah that was my experience trying to rebuild a team in the Box. Giving up handicaps most of the time and having a player miss the game due to Morley's, I am the Greatest or It Wasn't me when you are already down three players from the start. I don't care how skilled up your guys are when you only have seven players. The other guy can trade players all day and you lose the battle of attrition.
Long story short, if you don't mind losing several games then you can rebuild a team no problem. I just don't like losing.
| Paragon wrote: | | clarkin wrote: | | The team's looking better already, though your two games after being decimated were both against ogres (ouch!!). How'd you get on? |
After 7 rather unbalanced games, I'm happy to say I'm back up to 11 players. My record during rebuilding is the rather poor (0/2/5), and the two I tied were very very lucky. Despite my unbalanced TR (which is still unbalanced because of Ilmarinen), I only played Ogres twice, with two games versus Chaos Dwarfs, and one game a piece against Orcs, Khemri, and Dwarfs. I did not come across any bashed up teams, and gave up several handicaps instead. This was one of the hardest parts about recovery -- I don't know how many times I got Morley's, It Wasn't Me, and I am the Greatest, which made it very hard to put up any defense or mount any serious offense...
I can't say the team is in good shape yet, but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. |
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