golan
Joined: Jan 18, 2005
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Mar 20, 2005 - 23:26 |
 
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Hi guys,
some rules questions:
1) I block an enemy, I smash him on the ground and follow, I then roll for Armour; he had the ball, that scatters... on me! I fail to take the ball, and it bounces again and falls to the ground. Is it my turn-over, or not?
2) When the ball bounces, is it considered a "passage" ? If yes, can I use "catch" ability? If not, can I use "sure hands"? when I try to get the ball, do I have the +1 (like a passage) or +1 (like a pick-up) ?
3) If a big guy rolls to use his "pro" ability, but fails... can I use a team reroll for THAT roll ?
4) A fouling player has +1 on armour rolls (if not in enemy tackle zones). A fouling player that has the ability "dirty Player", when using it on armour rolls, gets +3 (that is 1+2) or only +2 ?
Thanks guys!
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JanMattys
Joined: Feb 29, 2004
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Mar 20, 2005 - 23:28 |
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1) no, it's not.
2) yes. catch counts as a reroll on scatters and kicks. And I think it is a catch of a non-accurate passage.
3) yes on tabletop. Not in the client. You can't reroll failed Pro rolls.
4) only a +2 |
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Mezir
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 20, 2005 - 23:41 |
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3) Not on table-top either, because it's a Big Guy. If it wasn't a Big Guy, then yes. But still not in the client. |
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JanMattys
Joined: Feb 29, 2004
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Mar 21, 2005 - 01:27 |
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@Mezir:
DOH  |
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Xeterog
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 21, 2005 - 09:23 |
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| JanMattys wrote: |
4) only a +2 |
Nope..it's +3
the +1 for fouling is JUST like the +1 for an accurate pass or the +1 for dodging, or the +1 for picking up the ball. You can add skill modifiers to those (like using the accurate skill)...same principle applies to Dirty player.
Also note that you get to use teh +2 from DP after the AV roll, so if you break the armor without using DP's +2, you get to use the +2 from DP on the Injury roll (the client does this automatically i believe) |
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Sinner
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 21, 2005 - 09:32 |
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ad 1) It is not a turnover because a turnover is when...
- you fail to pick up the ball (not here obviously)
- you fail to catch a pass with a player of your team
The ball scatters onto your player so you try to catch (not pick up), you fail the catch, but as it wasn't a pass you don't suffer a turnover.
Just wanted to explain the "No, it's not" from JanMattys |
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Shinan
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 21, 2005 - 09:34 |
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| GorTeX wrote: |
Nope..it's +3
the +1 for fouling is JUST like the +1 for an accurate pass or the +1 for dodging, or the +1 for picking up the ball. You can add skill modifiers to those (like using the accurate skill)...same principle applies to Dirty player.
Also note that you get to use teh +2 from DP after the AV roll, so if you break the armor without using DP's +2, you get to use the +2 from DP on the Injury roll (the client does this automatically i believe) |
I always thought Dirty Player INCREASED the normal foul roll to +2 instead of +1. I.e. it is not cumulative with the normal foul roll. (This is probably the reason it is +2 instead of +1 to begin with) |
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Sinner
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 21, 2005 - 11:03 |
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| Shinan wrote: | | GorTeX wrote: |
Nope..it's +3
the +1 for fouling is JUST like the +1 for an accurate pass or the +1 for dodging, or the +1 for picking up the ball. You can add skill modifiers to those (like using the accurate skill)...same principle applies to Dirty player.
Also note that you get to use teh +2 from DP after the AV roll, so if you break the armor without using DP's +2, you get to use the +2 from DP on the Injury roll (the client does this automatically i believe) |
I always thought Dirty Player INCREASED the normal foul roll to +2 instead of +1. I.e. it is not cumulative with the normal foul roll. (This is probably the reason it is +2 instead of +1 to begin with) |
| LRB wrote: | | Dirty Player (General Skill) A player with this skill has trained long and hard to learn every dirty trick in the book. If he fouls an opposing player then add +2 to the Armor or the Injury rolls. Note that this skill can only be used if the player actually makes a foul; it may not be used if he is assisting another player who is making a foul. The Dirty Player skill may be used to modify an Amour or Injury roll for a foul, not both. |
So, if the DP does not break the victim's armour with all valid assists (including his own +1!!!) he may add +2 to the armour roll. If he does not need the DP +2 on the armour he can put it on injurie instead, but not both.
Clear? |
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