spelledaren
Joined: Mar 06, 2004
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This was hardly necromancy. It was a month old, still on the front page of the forum, and still highly relevant.
The subject is one of great importance to the division, not some random trolling.
And a few more signed it now, so it clearly has a function still. |
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ChrisB
Joined: Nov 28, 2003
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Dec 29, 2008 - 03:00 |
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I still like the challange but a cpa at 10% TS or 20TS total will help. Some games are just plain stupid especially with the kiler DP Khemri teams out there. It also prevents high TS coaches from playig low AV teams as it plain don't work.
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Ansbach
Joined: Jul 12, 2004
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Dec 29, 2008 - 03:08 |
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I'm fine with the system the way it is. Many online competitive games have ladders or similar coach rankings to match up evenly-skilled players - this really isn't any different in my opinion. |
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spelledaren
Joined: Mar 06, 2004
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Dec 29, 2008 - 11:41 |
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I would love to be matched against evenly skilled coaches, but this isn't what the box does. It handicaps the better coach for a percieved even game.
To be paired with a coach of similar BR is something I would readily accept and encourage, just as long as it doesn't influence the TS-matching process. |
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Over-dose
Joined: Feb 05, 2008
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Dec 29, 2008 - 12:00 |
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odi
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Dec 29, 2008 - 12:50 |
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First of all I have to tell that I do like the way the black box works, and I have no problems with Mr S.C.Heduler, except it doesnt give my gobbos nearly enough games. And the second thing I have to say, is that I didnt have the energy (yeah, I'm lazy that way) to browse through people's profiles. What kind of TR TS handicaps are we talking about, I'd just like to see some examples, where someones team is playing up 15 TS all the time because they are so good.
I was just wondering, on the team statistics page, you can see the average TR/TS diff per race, so does someone have something like 10+ games vs some race and the average TS difference is still closer to 15? Ofcourse there will be those few freaky pairings, but given enough games they should average out. Of course the ST formula is a bit off for Ogres and stunties so those wouldnt be accurate I guess. Looking at my teams, I can see that against some races I've been playing up a bit, and down vs some others. In total I think those would even themselves out (for me).
No, I'm not trying to piss off anyone, I was just wondering if that truly is the case, that someone is really playing up a lot constantly, and if so, by how much 
I dont really have 10+ games vs any particular race yet, but for example, my norse seem to be playing up average 6TS per game vs chaos and those games have been even 2/4/2. And my skaven have been playing up by a few points vs dwarves and down a few points vs Orcs. I dont really have that many other races that would have even more than 5 games vs some particular race, so it's hard to say... But after a few hundred more games I suppose we'll see.... |
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JanMattys
Joined: Feb 29, 2004
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Dec 29, 2008 - 13:00 |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Dec 29, 2008 - 13:18 |
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CircularLogic
Joined: Aug 22, 2003
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Dec 29, 2008 - 13:28 |
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JanMattys
Joined: Feb 29, 2004
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Dec 29, 2008 - 14:26 |
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| sk8bcn wrote: |
what is that supposed to highlight? |
It is supposed to highlight that Synn played Chaos 10 times with an average of -16 TS with his CDs.
Three times CDs with an average of -9 TS
Once Dark Elves with -24 TS
Once Wood Elves with -12 TS
Once Undead -10 TS
Six times Orcs with an average of -9 TS
And his team is 14/14/8. You would expect Synn to be better than 14/14/8 with CDs in a random environment. At least, I'd expect him to be.
Which shows odi (who was asking for details) that some coaches do indeed suffer from the current pairing formula. They get harder matchups for being better coaches. Which is what this petition is against. |
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Enar
Joined: Mar 05, 2004
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Dec 29, 2008 - 14:39 |
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Now that I read through this one and understand the point, Signed |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Dec 29, 2008 - 14:59 |
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| JanMattys wrote: | | sk8bcn wrote: |
what is that supposed to highlight? |
It is supposed to highlight that Synn played Chaos 10 times with an average of -16 TS with his CDs.
Three times CDs with an average of -9 TS
Once Dark Elves with -24 TS
Once Wood Elves with -12 TS
Once Undead -10 TS
Six times Orcs with an average of -9 TS
And his team is 14/14/8. You would expect Synn to be better than 14/14/8 with CDs in a random environment. At least, I'd expect him to be.
Which shows odi (who was asking for details) that some coaches do indeed suffer from the current pairing formula. They get harder matchups for being better coaches. Which is what this petition is against. |
ah ok. I just thought it was pretty clear that it worked that way. |
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Ash
Joined: Feb 03, 2004
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Dec 29, 2008 - 14:59 |
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same. Signed. |
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Lofwyr
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Dec 29, 2008 - 15:03 |
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Fallen00
Joined: Oct 16, 2008
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Dec 29, 2008 - 17:24 |
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Jan -- those are not averages they are totals. And they look fine to me.
As a matter of fact, I think you're all whining for nothing.
From the look of those stats, it makes it clear that the blackbox IS working well.
2nd edit: I've looked at a few circularlogic games -- The strenght doesnt add the bonus for Handicaps, so please add those before going nut on inacurrate statistics. |
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