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| Would you like this new rule? |
| Yes, it's worth a try |
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7% |
[ 32 ] |
| No, but i would like some other way to prevent elfbowling |
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6% |
[ 28 ] |
| I don't like elfbowling, but i don't think we can do anything about it |
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18% |
[ 79 ] |
| Elbowling is fine |
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66% |
[ 280 ] |
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| Total Votes : 419 |
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Macavity
Joined: Nov 23, 2004
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Dec 21, 2007 - 19:03 |
 
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/me wrote recent blog on the reality of cherrypicking. Highest rated other than birth announcement! |
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Purplegoo
Joined: Mar 23, 2006
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Dec 21, 2007 - 19:12 |
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| JanMattys wrote: |
So let me instill new life in this rotten body: someone care to explain me why elfbowling=cherrypicking? |
I don't think it does, I just think people are lumping together lame behaviour under the banner of a single word. Another example of this is labelling lame music as emo, because we all hate emo, right?  |
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JanMattys
Joined: Feb 29, 2004
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Dec 21, 2007 - 19:13 |
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I hate EMI
...So yes, I hate music  |
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Meech
Joined: Sep 15, 2005
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Dec 21, 2007 - 19:19 |
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Jan, what is so scary about Busko's Skaven Team? |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Dec 21, 2007 - 20:31 |
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Ban bloodbowl it just causes arguments!
Ban moaning about resurecting old threads. People like arguements. Even old arguments that have already been argued to death.
Elfbowling=cherrypicking.
Cherrypicking: Picking games that you believe will give you a better than even chance of a favourable result.
Favourable results: winning the game, Not suffering any deaths/niggles/MNG, skilling up three or more players, causing three or more deaths, making the other coach cry e.t.c. take your pick.
Only the coach who does the picking knows for sure that it was an attempted pick. |
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SillySod
Joined: Oct 10, 2006
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Dec 22, 2007 - 02:06 |
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| Craftnburn wrote: | Any open league encourages cherry picking (which is all Elfbowling is in essence).
Get rid of Rank and you get rid of Elfbowling/Cherry Picking.
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I disagree entirely. Elfball isnt cherrypicking, it's a preference for a different style of play that both coaches can enjoy.
Many cherrypickers are also elfballers, it dosent mean that they're the same though.
Many cherrypickers dont do it for reasons of CR. Some do but just by achieving that CR they are gaining more "prestige" and more people take a look at their playing practices. I doubt that many people who have looked at the successful (CR wise) cherrypickers respect them at all. Recognition without respect and in fact recognition with dislike is not a good thing.
Cherrypicking works for those people who like to keep their team alive. For whatever reason it makes them feel a bit happier. This has nothing to do with rank.
PS Since you didnt bother to read the thread (well, you did admit that) then you would've been better advised to start your own thread, where you could place your own emphasis. If you had to you could've linked to this thread but its generally easier to spot where a new argument begins and what it stands for if its in a new thread. |
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SillySod
Joined: Oct 10, 2006
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Dec 22, 2007 - 02:12 |
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| Arctaeus wrote: | Elfbowling is fine.
(joins in the debate) |
I dont agree with this eiter.
It may not be the same as cherrypicking but I do agree that it can unbalance the whole Ranked league. |
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Ranzimus
Joined: Oct 05, 2007
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Dec 26, 2007 - 22:40 |
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All elfbowlers are cherrypicking, but not all cherry-pickers are Elfbowling. I see it as a form of cherrypicking and since casualties are part of the game, choosing matches that in any way distort the chances of casualties, DOES mess with balance. This is true of those who seek soft teams agasint whom to play and also those who play the game only to maim. I have given up asking players for matches for the most part. I just throw my teams in gamefinder and see who bites. Clicking on a name and typing the preamble and offer and whatnot only to be dismissed or told to f-off, is annoying. I've played a couple of really fun games in the last week just waiting for someone to ask this wallflower to dance.
Can't wait for the Black Box! "The Black Box is like a box of chocolates...You never know what you're gonna get..." or something like that. Sure there may be the odd chocolate-covered 'Cherry', but at least it's already been picked for you. |
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Markdienekes
Joined: Feb 08, 2008
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Feb 25, 2008 - 01:30 |
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elfbowling's for sissies. Where's the blood in it? : P |
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SillySod
Joined: Oct 10, 2006
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Feb 25, 2008 - 01:34 |
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Gus
Joined: Sep 16, 2005
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Feb 25, 2008 - 01:36 |
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hmmm....
/me gets an image about a man, a horse and a stick....
(NO SPOONY, not that! *sigh* there is always someone....) |
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HasniM
Joined: Dec 30, 2006
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Feb 25, 2008 - 01:47 |
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My woodies tend to hit back hard. They take it in the face if they can't do the two turn score, but meanwhile, they have to pound the other guy if they're going to have any chance to get the ball back.
| Zombie69 wrote: | The T16 foul had nothing to do with bitterness and everything to do with balance again. Trying to cause a CAS to a team that will avoid CAS, to restore balance, ever so slightly.
And again, this game had nothing to do with it. I've always hated leagues that allowed elfbowling. Many, many years ago, in OLBBL, i challenged an elfbowling team with my own wood elves and did everything i could to maim them, to do my little part against elfbowling. So this is nothing new.
And like i said, keep sracraft out of it.
For the third time, i ask you to step out of this thread and let other people speak. We already know what you think. Now let's hear what others have to say. |
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Tor_AlKir
Joined: Oct 10, 2003
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Feb 25, 2008 - 02:15 |
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Ranzimus: Does elven armor suddenly shoot up to 11 when facing other elf teams??? 7AV is 7AV. I think your lack of Agilitied teams shows you are no authority on the subject. And the two agility teams you do have have both been, guess what....elfbowling. Elfbowling = Cherrypicking
Your hypocrisy seems to know no bounds.
/me uses power word KILL on this thread* |
Last edited by Tor_AlKir on %b %25, %2008 - %07:%Feb; edited 3 times in total |
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SmilinMatt
Joined: Oct 03, 2007
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Feb 25, 2008 - 02:17 |
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I think we should ban TDs |
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xyon
Joined: Apr 19, 2005
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Feb 25, 2008 - 19:06 |
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not going to read the 17 pages.
Short answer to banning elf ball or making a special rule towards playing against elves: no
Boo hoo, so they score 1 td in 2 turns or less. You know its hard enough getting a player skilled enough with av7 without getting hurt a lot.
Maybe bashers should play against elves more to learn how to setup a proper defense, and maybe take diving tackle on a few of their double rolls instead of another boring claw or something, and pass block to get it on the guy.
So yeah, no need to ban elf ball for bashing coaches being inept at defense, they'll get their turn to bash them up. |
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