Cloggy
Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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Sep 20, 2005 - 10:13 |
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That was a classic match indeed! I am actually going to stalk Skeloboy until he gives me some lessons in skill rolling. That team is rediculous. That damn Ag4 Bull even broke Meuh's passing record!
Rematch always welcome as you know |
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macike
Joined: Jun 25, 2005
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Sep 20, 2005 - 12:00 |
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BB rules list Post Match and Pre Match Sequence.
As I understand when agreement is about to be made one would like to see/know the ooponent team shape AFTER the Post Match Sequence.
BEFORE the actual game starts anything that is part of Pre Match Sequence IMHO is not against any Etiquette.
Please notice that working out the TR is a Post Match Sequence step 5. Anything that impacts TR should be made before agreement is made.
So I would be offended if my opponent had changed his team's TR without letting me know BEFORE actual game starts. In such a case I may require a game to be cancelled. |
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MrMojo
Joined: Apr 17, 2004
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Sep 20, 2005 - 12:56 |
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This should be the new, "is fouling part of the game"-thread. |
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Wallace
Joined: May 26, 2004
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Sep 20, 2005 - 13:03 |
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Nope big difference, fouling is legal, this thread is a question of rules. Chalk and cheese really... |
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macike
Joined: Jun 25, 2005
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Sep 20, 2005 - 13:37 |
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MrMojo wrote: | This should be the new, "is fouling part of the game"-thread. |
There is no need to.
Fouling IS a part of game.
Working out Team Rating IS NOT a part of Pre Match Sequence. |
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MrMojo
Joined: Apr 17, 2004
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Sep 20, 2005 - 13:43 |
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The way I see it, the post match sequence is still going after you finish a match and doesn't stop untill you start hiring freebooters. So in my book, you could drop 10 K or two, because the post match sequence is still going on. If not, then you shouldn't be able to hire and fire at all. Only after a match for a brief period of time. |
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macike
Joined: Jun 25, 2005
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Sep 20, 2005 - 13:56 |
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MrMojo wrote: | the post match sequence is still going after you finish a match and doesn't stop untill you start hiring freebooters |
Ok, no problem. Just let the opponent know what changes are you going to do before hiring freebooters to see if he still wants to face your team. |
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Schalburg
Joined: Feb 12, 2004
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Sep 20, 2005 - 13:57 |
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JanMattys wrote: | Cloggy wrote: | Mezir wrote: | So now that we've confirmed that Jan is a filthy star-hiring piece of Bull Centaur excrement, let's BURN HIM! Buuuuuuuuuuuurn! AHAHAHA! |
Don't forget about the wizzard
Still Jan is crap at using the wizz, are't you Jan? |
Yesterday I spanked Skeloboy's CDs good. I'm training for our next meeting, you dodgy dorfs!
ps: oh, I am collecting money for our next meeting too... |
Just so he can dumb them in the last minute to gain that crucial handicap! |
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JanMattys
Joined: Feb 29, 2004
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Sep 20, 2005 - 14:24 |
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Schalburg wrote: | JanMattys wrote: | Cloggy wrote: | Mezir wrote: | So now that we've confirmed that Jan is a filthy star-hiring piece of Bull Centaur excrement, let's BURN HIM! Buuuuuuuuuuuurn! AHAHAHA! |
Don't forget about the wizzard
Still Jan is crap at using the wizz, are't you Jan? |
Yesterday I spanked Skeloboy's CDs good. I'm training for our next meeting, you dodgy dorfs!
ps: oh, I am collecting money for our next meeting too... |
Just so he can dumb them in the last minute to gain that crucial handicap! |
Nah. Much better the Zug+Wizard combo. |
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torsoboy
Joined: Nov 23, 2004
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Sep 20, 2005 - 15:37 |
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Schalburg wrote: | JanMattys wrote: |
ps: oh, I am collecting money for our next meeting too... |
Just so he can dumb them in the last minute to gain that crucial handicap! |
haha well played |
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CorporateSlave3
Joined: Feb 07, 2004
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Sep 20, 2005 - 15:54 |
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MrMojo wrote: | The way I see it, the post match sequence is still going after you finish a match and doesn't stop untill you start hiring freebooters. So in my book, you could drop 10 K or two, because the post match sequence is still going on. If not, then you shouldn't be able to hire and fire at all. Only after a match for a brief period of time. |
Except no true LRB game would be agreed to until all the post match sequence was complete and TR was settled on. Or at least, it sure shouldn't. The league commish would be there to witness the finalized rosters after a game IRL.
It has been suggested in the past to make a 'team ready' button to push after you finish post-match activities, showing the TR is now fixed and you're ready to play again. This would still aloow the normal hiring of freebooters as Pre-match, but not allow TR trimming, a pratcice that, outside of tournaments, I will always ses as cheating. |
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MrMojo
Joined: Apr 17, 2004
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Sep 20, 2005 - 16:03 |
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CorporateSlave3 wrote: | MrMojo wrote: | The way I see it, the post match sequence is still going after you finish a match and doesn't stop untill you start hiring freebooters. So in my book, you could drop 10 K or two, because the post match sequence is still going on. If not, then you shouldn't be able to hire and fire at all. Only after a match for a brief period of time. |
Except no true LRB game would be agreed to until all the post match sequence was complete and TR was settled on. Or at least, it sure shouldn't. The league commish would be there to witness the finalized rosters after a game IRL.
It has been suggested in the past to make a 'team ready' button to push after you finish post-match activities, showing the TR is now fixed and you're ready to play again. This would still aloow the normal hiring of freebooters as Pre-match, but not allow TR trimming, a pratcice that, outside of tournaments, I will always ses as cheating. |
Well, we are entitled to our opinios, untill it is officially clarified in the rules. |
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nin
Joined: May 27, 2005
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Sep 20, 2005 - 16:18 |
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Even the pre-match secuence is suposed to be made openly usually, the fact that there you can hire everything "secretly" is not LBR (neither really against it also, I think), it's more a matter of organicers, tournaments, and players decision.
...and about changing TR
@Rules: A game is considered to have started at the moment the clients connect. At this point you are committed to the game and must play it out. Note that this includes scenarios where your opponent purchased new players after the mutual agreement to play. This rule does not apply if any of the participants connects with a team other than the one the game was agreed on.
hiring don't change your team (it's pre match secuence), buying players does, like changing your TR (it's a diferent team), but it's explicitly allowed here to buy players (that puzles me, I have to say).
Imo, rules should be clarified regarding this point.
By the way, what about firing your players so the 40 ST limit is surpased (do it with zons vs dwafs and it's good enougth for the how to be a rigt bastard thread ) |
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Macavity
Joined: Nov 23, 2004
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Sep 20, 2005 - 16:21 |
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Nin, that's been covered on the Right Bastard thread.... multiple times....
Wallace..... Chalk and Cheese are both very much Calcium based, aren't they? |
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nin
Joined: May 27, 2005
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Sep 20, 2005 - 16:26 |
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Macavity wrote: | Nin, that's been covered on the Right Bastard thread.... multiple times....
Wallace..... Chalk and Cheese are both very much Calcium based, aren't they? |
What did I said, good enougth for it (didn't claimed to be the first with the idea, I know there are brilliant bastards emougth here ) |
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