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| Which would you like to see in tournaments? |
| HUMans, UNFORLORN!!! |
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26% |
[ 27 ] |
| ORCZ, cuz teh iz da bestust? |
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2% |
[ 3 ] |
| DORFS and C Dorfs is stoopid, but they can win |
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2% |
[ 3 ] |
| An E.L.F. team, make another poll with the different elves |
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13% |
[ 14 ] |
| CHAOS or the Pacts, blood for the blood god |
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3% |
[ 4 ] |
| Hobgoblin Hotel, the ag3 av7 teams |
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9% |
[ 10 ] |
| the forlorn teams |
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17% |
[ 18 ] |
| Stunty? Kidding? |
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8% |
[ 9 ] |
| this is stoopid, i vote for pie |
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13% |
[ 14 ] |
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| Total Votes : 102 |
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Bullroarer4
Joined: Oct 22, 2012
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May 27, 2014 - 23:43 |
 
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I guess at this point I should ask : is a 12 man preferable to a third team RR at creation? |
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Overhamsteren
Joined: May 27, 2006
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May 27, 2014 - 23:54 |
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No way, always 3-4 rerolls 
Oenarlod,  |
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Bullroarer4
Joined: Oct 22, 2012
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May 28, 2014 - 00:02 |
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So what is the most competative starting roster? |
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JackassRampant
Joined: Feb 26, 2011
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May 28, 2014 - 00:06 |
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4 Blitzers, 1 Thrower, 1 Catcher, 6 Linemen, 3 Rerolls and Apoth. Or 4 RR and no Apoth. But 12 men, so you can foul if you need and you can soak up a little damage. Humans are great if they can keep their numbers up, but they run down men a little and ST3/AG3 starts to show.
If yer gonna do an Ogre, which you shouldn't start with IMO, then: 4 Blitzers, 1 Ogre, 1 Thrower, 1 Catcher, 4 Linos, 3 RR. Bonehead and Loner lose games, but yeah ST5 does sometimes come in real handy. I see Ogres as adding randomness to the game, and since Humans are actually pretty dominant at rookie values that only favors coaches who don't trust in their own skills. |
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Dunenzed
Joined: Oct 28, 2011
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May 28, 2014 - 00:33 |
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I disagree on the Ogre. Mata Leon set a record score in the HLP with an Ogre on the team, and the Vault Tec Squad and the Kingston Kruelty have had success with Ogre's. None of these teams are coached by people that don't trust their own skills.
In my experience the value of an Ogre improves after a couple of quick skills. In a starting 11 man squad they get a marginally better chance of scoring MVP, and if you set your mind to it a pair of early TDs will help send the big man on his way (even if you don't keep scoring with him in future). |
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Overhamsteren
Joined: May 27, 2006
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May 28, 2014 - 00:43 |
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I finally got my first double on an ogre and along with that the team got of to a great 0/2/3 start  |
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JackassRampant
Joined: Feb 26, 2011
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May 28, 2014 - 01:17 |
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| Dunenzed wrote: | I disagree on the Ogre. Mata Leon set a record score in the HLP with an Ogre on the team, and the Vault Tec Squad and the Kingston Kruelty have had success with Ogre's. None of these teams are coached by people that don't trust their own skills.
In my experience the value of an Ogre improves after a couple of quick skills. In a starting 11 man squad they get a marginally better chance of scoring MVP, and if you set your mind to it a pair of early TDs will help send the big man on his way (even if you don't keep scoring with him in future). |
This is all true. When I build teams to build them (like this), I start with the Ogre build I indicated, with 3 RR. But if you want the best chance to win right away, as in a RRR tourney (which is my understanding of BR4's intent), spending your last 100k upgrading a lino to an Ogre is a gamble, and since Humans are pretty effective at rookie value anyway, you don't need the extra oomph so much as you need to be able to count on Plan A. That's why I advocate a 12-man roster with either an Apoth or a fourth RR for rookie KO tournaments.
Either way I think this is a marginal thing. You can win with either, you can build with either. But given that both routes work, and given a team born in a KO tourney and then played in a TV-matching environment, I'd be more inclined to play to the tourney than to midterm development. |
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Dunenzed
Joined: Oct 28, 2011
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May 28, 2014 - 02:05 |
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That's a much stronger arguement than putting it down to coaches looking for randomness to help their game. I'm not fully in favour of the Ogre to start with, they certainly come with enhanced potential for frustration, but I'm not sure they are as bad as their reputation suggests. Certainly just looking at the RRR makes it a different prospect.
Going into a RRR with the aim of winning would you consider minimising the TV of the starting roster to gain inducements? I think game|set|match had success with a team that induced Griff every game, but this strikes me as a bit extreme for the team BR4 is looking to delevop. Is there value in a babe over a 12th man? |
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Bullroarer4
Joined: Oct 22, 2012
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May 28, 2014 - 05:15 |
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!!!!Here Are your 2514 Premiership War Gods!!!!
#1 Brae "The Raven" Borginsson-Thrower
Sponsored by Coach Rabe
Brae fell in love with the game of Blood Bowl early on. He played for different local youth teams. Swift and agile (at least compared to his teammates), he almost instantly became a runner. However, it soon turned out that he was not very resilient and often got knocked out when tackled by his opponents. He therefor started focusing on passing play, allowing him to stay out of contact most of the time. His teammates and coaches didn't approve though. After months as reserve on the bench, he threw the towel and decided to move on.
Leaving his adolescence behind as well as his birthplace, he traveled into The Empire. By that time, the Grotty Little Tournament took place in the great city of Altdorf. Brae realized how popular Blood Bowl was among the humans and figured that he might have more success amongst them than with his own kind.
Not much later, he stumbled upon coach Bullroarer's calling and after some negotiations got himself onto his team.
#3 Ares McBufkin-Blitzer
Sponsored by Coach Ardonite
Ares's father Octavian was a blitzer on 7 different teams , and was growing in notability, and was closing in on legend status, when he's was crippled for life, and was forced to retire. Octavian was deeply grieved by this fact, and wanted, a McBufkin to achieve that difficult plateau of legend, so he was overjoyed when he learned he was having a son. He named his son Ares, as he knew he would need a fierce name to achieve his ultimate dream. Ares eventually adopted his fathers dream as his own, and has now joined the War Gods to achieve that Goal for himself and his father.
#4 Anatole "The Scholar" Theroux-Blitzer
Sponsored by Coach Woodpusher
Anatole comes from a wealthy family and has been schooled very well. He has never needed to earn himself any money, living off of the taxes payed by his father's serfs. Despite this he always loved to play the physical sometimes slightly barbaric games with the poor children and sometimes even the roving orc families. A natural athlete and scholar, Anatole wants to be recognized as a key player in the winning strategy, although he doesn't care if he's the utmost star.
Here he is in ACTION!
Skills: Strip Ball, Tackle, Guard, MB
Doubles: Dodge
Stats: +MA, +AG, +ST
(skill selection choices may change if there are stat ups)
#5 Doc Poods-Blitzer
Sponsored by Coach Drpoods
Doc Poods is a true character of the Blood Bowl scene. Having studied Battlefield Triage at Averheim University, the good doctor was posted to the border region with a fresh platoon of recruits to guard against an expected Goblin invasion. When the invasion came, his squad found themselves cut off and as casualties began to mount Doc found himself almost overwhelmed by all the work he had to do.
Then a Goblin arrow knocked the cigarette out of his mouth. It was his last one...
When reinforcements arrived, the found the shattered remnants of the platoon milling around uncertainly near some dead Goblin bodies. When asked, the muttered something about their doctor deciding to "deal with the interruptions" and being someone to avoid. They pointed to a mound of Goblin bodies and the reinforcements could make out a figure, on top of the pile, reclining behind a cloud of smoke.
The good doctor has found himself fascinated by human anatomy and what he is able to do to it. Having been recruited to try some Apothecary work, he found that causing Blood Bowl damage was far more his scene than fixing it. Anyone who expects the mild mannered gentlemen to be the same on the pitch will soon learn about "white line fever".
Better watch yourself...
The Doctor Is In!!!
Normal skills: MB, Frenzy, Dauntless
Doubles: Jump Up, Sidestep
Stats: ST (take ahead of double skill)
AG: I guess so. Not totally necessary. If no MB then take MB.
MA/AV: MA.
#6 Inana-Blitzer
Sponsored by Coach JackassRampant
Inana is the goddess of sex and violence, lust and rage, passion and plenty. She conquered the temple of E-anna and Her cult rules in Uruk. She is the wandering star Venus, and She searches the mountains of the east and west for those who have profaned Her.
So MB, T, PO, Pro, Dauntless; Jump Up on doubles.
#7 Eric "liquorice" Stevens-Catcher
Sponsored by Coach Seventyone
Eric "liquorice" Stevens
Nick named liquorice because he goes through the defense at speed Eric is a veritable dodging machine, always looking to squeeze through the tightest of gaps to get to the endzone. He'd rather not play at all on defense: far too dangerous and not nearly flashy enough but if forced to he will hang around the fringes hoping to stay out of trouble and pick up any loose balls. On offense he loves to taunt opposing players by standing near them (not next to them), then receiving a pass or hand off and sprinting for the end zone. Once he's got the ball he is definitely not keen on handing it over to anyone else so they can get the glory of scoring.
Skills:
Normal: block then side step
Doubles: nerves of steel
Stats: yes please! (Movement over armour)
#10 Leonard "Vault Boy"-Lineman
Sponsored by Coach OenarLod
Leonard is only a young guy that spent most of his free time spectating the Vault Tec Squad, the local Blood Bowl team. He was so excited to try to play himself, asking Overseer Bomber for a place in the team. But he didn't got it. But the Overseer response was an harsh one: "Only full grown man are accepted in the Squad, not small, weak, little guys. You cannot even play with the Recruits!"
Despite loving Vault BB, Leonard loves the game more and decided to leave the Vault looking for a contract. One day he will be back, a Blood Bowl superstar, to be the captain of the Vault Tec Squad.
#11 Klaus 'The Young Wolf'-Lineman
Sponsored by Overhamsteren
Having trained in the Teutogen White Wolfs' youth section for most of his life it is now time for Klaus to travel the Old World as a player for hire as it is custom for aspiring Blood Bowl players raised in the North. The new franchise Premiership War Gods was lucky enough to grab this young talent as was passing by.
The Young Wolf quickly had enough of another young recruit Vault Boy's endless blabber about the greatness of the Vault Tec Squad and he is utterly determined to show School Boy the superiority of the power and skill that a wolf from the north brings to the game.
#12 Braden "Fat Boy" Crawford-Lineman
Sponsored by Coach Nerdbird
#13 Giacomo Nero-Lineman
Sponsored by coach Hicl
Giacomo Nero is a specialist boot manufacturer and has long been a secret favorite among the Blood Bowl playing Witch Elves.
But he was always looking for the big score and so one day he decided to take over the whole market with his new designs.
Unfortunately for Giacomo, Orcidas held the market in its greedy green grip, occupying almost every advertising banner and sponsorship, with the rest going to Reebork and other greenskinned enterprises.
"You should give up." His father told him. "It's not a good time to be human in the world of Blood Bowl."
That gave Giacomo an idea.
"No father." He said. "It's a great time to be human in the world of Blood Bowl."
The next day Giacomo went looking for a team. He was in the shape of his life, as you need to be when your clients are mostly blood crazed Witch Elves (and the occasional Slaanesh worshiping Chaos Warrior).
And so he managed to secure a spot on the promising Premiership War Gods. Ready to unleash his boots on the pitch and put them into the spotlight of every crystal ball in the Old World and beyond.
It was a great time to be human!
DP first, and prolly Kick or Wrestle next. If he does roll +Ag or +St I'd take that and develop him into a good player - the fluff doesn't neccessarily state that he's the one doing the fouling, maybe everybody in the team wears his boots.
On doubles I think he should go utility with Guard.
#14 Dirk "The Convict" Dirtface-Lineman
Sponsored by Coach Dunenzed
He played 20 games for the Sons of Brutus before finding himself in a spot of trouble after assualting a Dark Elf in a bar. Who would have thought what was good on the pitch was bad off it?
He's on early release for good behavior, and has worked very hard to redeem himself.
#15 Kenichi-Lineman
Till we get another Lino sponsor....
Kenichi, the mightiest disciple!
A rookie in many fighting and martial arts, Kenichi wishes to prove that a little guy can still compete.
Block, tackle, fend
doubles: Mighty blow, Piling On
any stat, doubles over move over armor
4 TEAM REROLLS (extensive team training)
Awaiting Funds required to pay the church for their blessing:
Sororitas Acolyte Sister Maria Derschwann (Apothacary)
#16 Preacher Urth'Win D'AnfIre-Ogre
Sponsored by Coach Cowhead
The once brutal murderer Urth'Win has changed his ways. He has found a calling in the name of the Goddess Shallya. He has until recently been traveling the realm offering help to those in need and tending the poorly whenever he can.
Recently he has been feeling the urge to hurt again and seeking council he has fasted and meditated for thirteen days and nights. On the final night he received a vision from Shallya, a vision of blood but also of peace. He must shed blood again but this time not on the battle field, but on the Blood Bowl field.
Urth'Win does not suffer from Bone Head but he will often break down in prayer to seek forgiveness for what he has done and will lose track of the game around him.
Urth'Win has an intolerable hatred of all things Nurgle.
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Bullroarer4
Joined: Oct 22, 2012
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May 28, 2014 - 05:30 |
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A VERY HEARTFELT THANKS! to all the sponsors and their efforts. this team is as much yours as it is mine. I will leave the team UNREADIED for 24 hours so any may comment on the team and any minor adjustments can be made.
I do not currently have a team logo prepared as of yet, nor am i very skilled at such. Any donations would be welcome.
Our first stop will be competing in a Royal Rookie Rumble followed by prep for either the next or following Major tournament. All comments are welcome. |
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DrPoods
Joined: Nov 14, 2013
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May 28, 2014 - 05:32 |
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JackassRampant
Joined: Feb 26, 2011
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May 28, 2014 - 05:44 |
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Sweet!
@ Dunenzed, I've gone in low-TV with Norse and Humans both in RRR, and there's nothing wrong with it if you have a plan. In Griff We Trust worked because the specific inducement targeted was a very good one for the TV matchup, as there's not a lot rookie teams can do to handle a speedy Blodging Vampire (that and GSM is an excellent coach, that doesn't hurt). Bull could probably pull something like that given a good plan, but the Griff game has been done.  |
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Seventyone
Joined: Dec 02, 2010
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May 28, 2014 - 19:52 |
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Bullroarer4
Joined: Oct 22, 2012
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May 29, 2014 - 00:42 |
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War Gods applied for the next RRR! |
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DrPoods
Joined: Nov 14, 2013
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May 29, 2014 - 01:02 |
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Go, go, Gadget War Gods!! |
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