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pythrr



Joined: Mar 07, 2006

Post   Posted: Jan 31, 2010 - 23:41 Reply with quote Back to top

hitler

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freak_in_a_frock



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jan 31, 2010 - 23:43 Reply with quote Back to top

And so the argument ends...
Calcium



Joined: Apr 08, 2007

Post   Posted: Feb 01, 2010 - 00:05 Reply with quote Back to top

whoosh......

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shadow46x2



Joined: Nov 22, 2003

Post   Posted: Feb 01, 2010 - 02:30 Reply with quote Back to top

CircularLogic wrote:
SImple example why TV is much worse estimating winning prowess of a team:
A blodge elven lino has the same TV than one with passblock and diving catch. Now pitching two team against each other, one with 12 blodging proelf linos and one with 12 passblock diving catch proelf linos, each with 2RR. By my estimate, the blodging one will win more than 95% or the matches.


ding ding ding...

wow......

so a diving catch/pass block lino is the *EXACT* same TV as a blodge lino of the same race?...

man...that's a pretty well polished system there...

--j

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paulhicks



Joined: Jul 19, 2004

Post   Posted: Feb 01, 2010 - 02:43 Reply with quote Back to top

shadow. you got called angie (fumbbls equivelent of godwins law) so unfortunatly theres no point in you posting anymore since you automaticaly lose.
Sorry.

Have a nice day Very Happy

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shadow46x2



Joined: Nov 22, 2003

Post   Posted: Feb 01, 2010 - 02:49 Reply with quote Back to top

Frankenstein wrote:
shadow46x2 wrote:
so you're citing a st2 troll slayer with MB as a reason why TS is borked?...

Firstly, that's a really horrible flaw there, indicating that something is fundamentally wrong with the TS-formula.

Secondly, you have entirely ignored the illogical TS for ogres.


you're right frankenstein, i did pretty much ignore your ogre argument, considering that, in combination with your viewpoints on TV, you establish a pretty big double standard...

you criticize TS for not weighing skills properly, but yet you praise TV for it's formula.....which doesn't weigh skills at all...much less weighing them improperly...

so when you cite such a double standard, why should i even bother acknowledging it as a "viable" viewpoint?

--j

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treborius



Joined: Apr 05, 2008

Post   Posted: Feb 01, 2010 - 21:37 Reply with quote Back to top

Frankenstein wrote:
shadow46x2 wrote:
[...]

[...]Incidentally, if you intend to further insult me personally, I suggest that you continue that via PM, no need to do that in public, thx.


heya, i think u should completely ignore any of what shadow's writing on forums - at least i'm having a much better time since i've started to do so Wink

that said, i don't think that tv > ts, sadly Sad - i do think, that ts is still the best metric available (though there is a lot of room for improvement) Wink
Archevol



Joined: Dec 14, 2008

Post   Posted: Feb 01, 2010 - 22:14 Reply with quote Back to top

more on Hitler please.
grant85



Joined: Dec 19, 2005

Post   Posted: Feb 01, 2010 - 22:31 Reply with quote Back to top

A decorated veteran of World War I, Hitler joined the Nazi Party (DAP) in 1919 and became leader of NSDAP in 1921. Following his imprisonment after a failed coup in Bavaria in 1923, he gained support by promoting German nationalism, anti-semitism, anti-capitalism, and anti-communism with charismatic oratory and propaganda. He was appointed chancellor in 1933, and quickly transformed the Weimar Republic into the Third Reich, a single-party dictatorship based on the totalitarian and autocratic ideals of national socialism.

Hitler ultimately wanted to establish a New Order of absolute Nazi German hegemony in Europe. To achieve this, he pursued a foreign policy with the declared goal of seizing Lebensraum ("living space") for the Aryan people; directing the resources of the state towards this goal. This included the rearmament of Germany, which culminated in 1939 when the Wehrmacht invaded Poland. In response, the United Kingdom and France declared war against Germany, leading to the outbreak of the Second World War in Europe.[2]

Within three years, Germany and the Axis powers had occupied most of Europe, and most of Northern Africa, East and Southeast Asia and the Pacific Ocean. However, with the reversal of the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union, the Allies gained the upper hand from 1942 onwards. By 1945, Allied armies had invaded German-held Europe from all sides. Nazi forces engaged in numerous violent acts during the war, including the systematic murder of as many as 17 million civilians[3], an estimated six million of whom were Jews targeted in a genocide known as the Holocaust.

In the final days of the war, at the fall of Berlin in 1945, Hitler married his long-time mistress Eva Braun and, to avoid capture by Soviet forces less than two days later, the two committed suicide.
grant85



Joined: Dec 19, 2005

Post   Posted: Feb 01, 2010 - 22:31 Reply with quote Back to top

...off topic much?
treborius



Joined: Apr 05, 2008

Post   Posted: Feb 01, 2010 - 23:02 Reply with quote Back to top

Archevol wrote:
more on Hitler please.


i got some highly informative material on that matter Razz

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pythrr



Joined: Mar 07, 2006

Post   Posted: Feb 01, 2010 - 23:46 Reply with quote Back to top

grant85 wrote:
...off topic much?


cut n paste much>?
Mr_Foulscumm



Joined: Mar 05, 2005

Post   Posted: Feb 02, 2010 - 03:19 Reply with quote Back to top

pythrr wrote:
grant85 wrote:
...off topic much?


cut n paste much>?


Blacklisted much?

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pythrr



Joined: Mar 07, 2006

Post   Posted: Feb 02, 2010 - 05:11 Reply with quote Back to top

Mr_Foulscumm wrote:
pythrr wrote:
grant85 wrote:
...off topic much?


cut n paste much>?


Blacklisted much?


In Soviet Russia list blacks yoo!
adambomb



Joined: Jan 14, 2009

Post   Posted: Feb 02, 2010 - 05:43 Reply with quote Back to top

Archevol wrote:
more on Hitler please.


He got owned in Inglorious Basterds.

Just sayin'...
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