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Poll
Was my foul wrong?
Yes. No reason to foul in that situation.
5%
 5%  [ 12 ]
Questionable. Friendly game, but you play to win.
3%
 3%  [ 7 ]
No. He had a legit chance to take away a win.
90%
 90%  [ 182 ]
Total Votes : 201


Osirid



Joined: Apr 06, 2009

Post   Posted: Apr 17, 2009 - 09:51 Reply with quote Back to top

Link to game in question: http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=match&id=2634730

Me and a couple of my buddies are still pretty new to BB. We all know, especially in friendly games, it's bad manner and rather douche-ish to foul in the last few turns.

I just played my brother and Necro against his Skaven in a rather tight game. as you can see in the replay. His scores against me in the game were rather "dodgey". it comes down to I have turn 16 and he's got one guy in line of the endzone with a chance after some movements, his downed 10ma runner. I slighlty tie up the thrower at the LoS (though forward movement is not suggested) and I only have the downed runner/dodgemaster touched with 1 guy, who are both next to the endzone. Is it wrong of me to try to conserve my win on the final turn with a foul on the runner to at least stun him up? Or do I try another guy touching him to make it harder for him to move (though it was only like 4+ and dodge I think)?

Anyone watch the last turn or so of the replay think anything on this? Thoughts, arguements, concernsm questions?
Kinks



Joined: Feb 28, 2007

Post   Posted: Apr 17, 2009 - 09:56 Reply with quote Back to top

Regardless of the turn that is what many people regard as a "tactical foul", nothing wrong with that ever.

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Cloggy



Joined: Sep 23, 2004

Post   Posted: Apr 17, 2009 - 10:01 Reply with quote Back to top

To me the discussion about late fouling is always about the state of the game at the time. I detest fouls made in turn 16 when the game is all over, but any foul you think you need to make to win the game is a good foul.

This makes your perfectly legitimate in my opinion.

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drbunny



Joined: Sep 20, 2007

Post   Posted: Apr 17, 2009 - 10:02 Reply with quote Back to top

Tactical foul is always good despite what turn it is.
PhrollikK



Joined: Nov 04, 2006

Post   Posted: Apr 17, 2009 - 10:07 Reply with quote Back to top

Never ever apologize for fouling, ever.

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Snappy_Dresser



Joined: Feb 11, 2005

Post   Posted: Apr 17, 2009 - 10:11 Reply with quote Back to top

In fact, If someone criticizes you in that situation, call him a big Jennifer and suggest Candyland might be more his speed.

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pac



Joined: Oct 03, 2005

Post   Posted: Apr 17, 2009 - 10:43 Reply with quote Back to top

Osirid wrote:
Is it wrong ..?

How could it possibly be wrong?

You have enough to worry about trying to protect your own players and get as good a result as possible without trying to think about whether you're being 'mean', or something.

It's your opponent's job to look after his own players.


Edit: Hang on. You were playing your brother!? Every match against a brother should be a no-holds-barred grudge match with as much fouling as possible ... Anything else really would be wrong!
Juff



Joined: May 24, 2006

Post   Posted: Apr 17, 2009 - 11:30 Reply with quote Back to top

In the situation; Leading by one TD, final turn. Opposing team may get a shot at the ball on their final turn, and have one player in scoring position.

Pretty much an auto boot on the player that can score.
sk8bcn



Joined: Apr 13, 2004

Post   Posted: Apr 17, 2009 - 12:06 Reply with quote Back to top

yep, it's the purpose of the foul that makes it bad sportsman or not.

Playing versus 3 skavens with a lead, a stall and foul them to death is poor, even if you do it at turn 3 of half 2. With a shot at winning, go on and foul.

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Wreckage



Joined: Aug 15, 2004

Post   Posted: Apr 17, 2009 - 12:15 Reply with quote Back to top

wow... thats like the most stunning poll result I've ever seen....... and you get actually one guy to vote questionable..... just wow....
maysrill



Joined: Dec 29, 2008

Post   Posted: Apr 17, 2009 - 12:18 Reply with quote Back to top

The only time I object to fouling is when it is for no in-game reason, just to damage your opponent's team. Getting a 2nd cas or stopping him from using that guy to score on his own T16 are both perfectly legit uses of fouling.

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pythrr



Joined: Mar 07, 2006

Post   Posted: Apr 17, 2009 - 12:20 Reply with quote Back to top

there is no wrong or right

when did morals enter a game?

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Grod



Joined: Sep 30, 2003

Post   Posted: Apr 17, 2009 - 12:26 Reply with quote Back to top

I voted yes. Every poll needs a statistical outlier.

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Snappy_Dresser



Joined: Feb 11, 2005

Post   Posted: Apr 17, 2009 - 12:30 Reply with quote Back to top

It was this same reasoning that got the Conservative Party of Canada elected to form government.

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Guria



Joined: Feb 11, 2008

Post   Posted: Apr 17, 2009 - 12:31 Reply with quote Back to top

You should have added a, "It is never wrong to foul" poll option.
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