On1
Joined: Jul 12, 2004
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Mar 23, 2012 - 11:44 |
 
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I heard someone mention Smack style tournaments coming to bbox... Dunno if this is true or not.
Would Smacks in bbox be a good or a bad thing?
As i see it it's cool to have the option of playing small tournaments, but if 8 coaches attends, the draws are going to be empty for those not participating. Leading to people abandoning bbox all together i think 
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maysrill
Joined: Dec 29, 2008
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Mar 23, 2012 - 12:45 |
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I think the opposite. While I'm sure some like would like the tournaments, it goes against the reason many (most?) play Box: quick, easy, no-effort matching. A standard (not "scheduled") SMACK would launch the first round right away (no problems yet), but the next round some people would have to wait for games to finish to get their next match (something Box players don't normally have to deal with). Then the finals sometime within 2 weeks (sounds like work!), though a lot get played right away.
All that stuff is also available on-demand in Ranked, so long as you can round up 8 people and an admin (for Box, presumably it would be the same, unless Christer implemented something special for Box Smacks). The only advantage would be the ability to play them with your Box teams. |
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Hitonagashi
Joined: Apr 09, 2006
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Mar 23, 2012 - 12:47 |
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One thing that's an important difference...for those of us who like little shiny award wins on our profile, currently, we can't get those if we play Box(excepting Minors and Majors).
I'd play Box smacks just for the chance to win something  . It adds a bit more point to high TV play than just "play n park". |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Mar 23, 2012 - 12:50 |
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BillBrasky
Joined: Feb 15, 2005
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Mar 23, 2012 - 13:15 |
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I think that would be doable if it was only at the top of the hour, and there was an option to check (activate) or (activate for boxsmack). You could chat it up a little in the box chat telling everyone to join you in a box smack... Maybe even remove TV limits, so it would be "Enter at your own risk," which is very much in the spirit of the box. |
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maysrill
Joined: Dec 29, 2008
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Mar 23, 2012 - 13:18 |
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| Hitonagashi wrote: | One thing that's an important difference...for those of us who like little shiny award wins on our profile, currently, we can't get those if we play Box(excepting Minors and Majors).
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You don't get them for League or Stunty either. As you point out, there are already major and minor Box tourneys.
While I have no objection to Box SMACKs, I just don't get this one. Box is for easy games. Ranked is for arranged games and tournaments. Box tends to be one-off games, after which you reset your team to best win the next one. Ranked lends itself to fluff, pixel-hugging, and long-term team building.
| Hitonagashi wrote: | | I'd play Box smacks just for the chance to win something . It adds a bit more point to high TV play than just "play n park". |
Ranked is (or at least was) where the majors are. If you wanted tournaments, it was right there, waiting. Now there are both majors and minors in the box. If you want to play SMACKs, you can just make a Ranked team. Enter them in a rookie SMACK and never worry about having to find games on GF, if that's why you don't like Ranked. |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Mar 23, 2012 - 13:39 |
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| maysrill wrote: |
While I have no objection to Box SMACKs, I just don't get this one. Box is for easy games. Ranked is for arranged games and tournaments. Box tends to be one-off games, after which you reset your team to best win the next one. Ranked lends itself to fluff, pixel-hugging, and long-term team building.
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Why would Box not be for tournaments when it already has tournaments?
Why can't Box teams have fluff? Some Box teams have 100s of games played. Pixel hugging doesn't really work though. 
If you don't have much time to play then it is a total pain in the ass to have to maintain teams in two divisions. |
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freak_in_a_frock
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 23, 2012 - 14:00 |
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The only thing I would add is that if it did happen i would be against TV brackets for the box. Just my personal opinion. |
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shadow46x2
Joined: Nov 22, 2003
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Mar 23, 2012 - 14:12 |
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oh look...this again...
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Hitonagashi
Joined: Apr 09, 2006
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Mar 23, 2012 - 14:18 |
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maysrill
Joined: Dec 29, 2008
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Mar 23, 2012 - 14:35 |
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| koadah wrote: |
Why can't Box teams have fluff? |
I don't mean logos and pics and backgrounds, I mean theme teams, and RP type teams. Teams that carry beat-to-crap old players because they are 130 games old and it feels wrong to scrap them. Teams that use all the positionals, even when it's generally accepted that some aren't really worth the cost. Teams that shun certain positionals or skills because it doesn't fit the theme.
While some buck the trend, Box is about winning the next game and that's it. In Ranked, many people have other goals besides optimizing team performance.
(as for why the Box has tournaments, as near as I can remember, it seemed like it was the lesser evil compared to listening to all the people asking why it didn't ) |
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Hitonagashi
Joined: Apr 09, 2006
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Mar 23, 2012 - 14:43 |
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| maysrill wrote: |
| Hitonagashi wrote: | | I'd play Box smacks just for the chance to win something . It adds a bit more point to high TV play than just "play n park". |
Ranked is (or at least was) where the majors are. If you wanted tournaments, it was right there, waiting. Now there are both majors and minors in the box. If you want to play SMACKs, you can just make a Ranked team. Enter them in a rookie SMACK and never worry about having to find games on GF, if that's why you don't like Ranked. |
And if, as the case is, I have my favourite team I play about 50-60% of my games with, and I'd like to enter that in more tournaments besides the 4 majors a year?
Just because I play Blackbox doesn't mean I can't like my team...when it's grown up and ready for tournaments, it seems pointless to just play another couple of games to get it killed again. When I have a team that's tournament ready, I'd like to be able to enter it in more tournaments. |
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Woodstock
Joined: Dec 11, 2004
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Mar 23, 2012 - 14:51 |
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A discussion yes, but not the one that is going on in this thread. It has been said numerous times by PC that B will not get smacks.
He did say there will be an B equivalent, which is what your link is referring to. So if you want to discus, it would be more along the lines of what the new BBB will look like, not why there are no B smacks.
Edit: and even that discussion is not on topic
So on topic, the new BBB can be both bad and good, unless we know details, there is not really much to say about the impact. |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Mar 23, 2012 - 14:54 |
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Hitonagashi
Joined: Apr 09, 2006
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Mar 23, 2012 - 15:01 |
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Woodstock: Fair enough. I really don't care if I get more tournaments! 
Smacks don't really fuss me per se, it'll just be nice to have more tourneys to enter. Can't wait to hear more about BBB. |
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