Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Oct 29, 2014 - 18:21 |
 
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| Garion wrote: | | The only question I am left asking after my conclusion on [possible improvements for Blackbox] is why not merge the divisions? I still see no logical reason for splitting the player base . |
This issue was raised by Garion in another thread. Worth discussing? |
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Calcium
Joined: Apr 08, 2007
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Oct 29, 2014 - 18:29 |
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No |
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mrbibitte3
Joined: Mar 28, 2013
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Oct 29, 2014 - 18:30 |
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I also wrote about it in the same thread.
| mrbibitte3 wrote: | I've read most of this thread (but not all) and I've got a quick question: what would be the disadvantages of a merged Box and Ranked division that could use both "Game Finder" and "The Draw" systems ?
Unless I'm wrong... it's the fear of having to play a series of killer teams without recovery games in between that makes the Box repelling to some. Offering the opportunity for a coach to select either "The Draw" or the "Game Finder" would be useful... and would probably make more coaches enter each draws without fears since, after a bad game, they could still recover while carefully using the Game Finder. Also, isn't it generally perceived that "The Draw" is a less tedious matchmaking system than the "Game Finder"? That would also naturally attract coaches into it. |
Here is the answer from Christer.
| Christer wrote: | | I wrote a pretty extensive blog about the divisions back in 2011. That's still representative of my opinion. |
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OenarLod
Joined: Jan 26, 2011
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Oct 29, 2014 - 18:30 |
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JackassRampant
Joined: Feb 26, 2011
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Oct 29, 2014 - 18:32 |
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Fix up the gamefinder and the Box scheduler, that's what I'd like to see.
If that included an "I'm feeling lucky" button for gamefinder, that would be fun. |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Oct 29, 2014 - 18:32 |
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Not unless a Black box style 1100 non progression resurrection format is launched. |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Oct 29, 2014 - 18:33 |
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| Garion wrote: | New best idea I've read - add blackbox scheduler to ranked, teams that only ever use the scheduler have a star next to their team name to show they are pro as heck. As soon as the team plays a non tournament game without using the scheduler they lose their pro as heck star.
Then make Black box 1100 non progression resurrection format. You get to pick 3 regular skills and 1 double at team creation.
Then we have 2 completely different divisions each offering something truly unique.
Win win. |
You missed this part out Balle ^
And why not calcium? There is really no reason to have the divisions split. |
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Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Oct 29, 2014 - 18:35 |
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| Garion wrote: | | You missed this part out Balle ^ |
Fair enough. I should have included that bit. |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Oct 29, 2014 - 18:38 |
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| Garion wrote: | | The only question I am left asking after my conclusion on [possible improvements for Blackbox] is why not merge the divisions? I still see no logical reason for splitting the player base . |
Yes, but ONLY IF all matches will be played via matchmaking. |
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SzieberthAdam
Joined: Aug 31, 2008
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Oct 29, 2014 - 18:41 |
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| Garion wrote: | | Then make Black box 1100 non progression resurrection format. You get to pick 3 regular skills and 1 double at team creation. |
After League reforms, we could have a group like that one. No need it to make a separate division. |
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BillBrasky
Joined: Feb 15, 2005
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Oct 29, 2014 - 18:41 |
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Christer's old blog is a good one.
Lots of points by various folks in the responses.
I don't see any change. So it's still very current.
I think my vote is known: Merge R & L, and leave B as the competitive division.
But, as I'm not likely in the majority (unless you count how many matches I play), I think it's best to coast until you have a super-majority that favor either division. |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Oct 29, 2014 - 18:43 |
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| SzieberthAdam wrote: | | Garion wrote: | | Then make Black box 1100 non progression resurrection format. You get to pick 3 regular skills and 1 double at team creation. |
After League reforms, we could have a group like that one. No need it to make a separate division. |
Only if we were given access to the scheduler. Without the scheduler that format wouldn't interest me anywhere near as much. |
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Roland
Joined: May 12, 2004
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Oct 29, 2014 - 18:45 |
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No, merge [S] and [L] to one division again!
I don't see the point of not having any stunty leeg leagues... |
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BillBrasky
Joined: Feb 15, 2005
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Oct 29, 2014 - 18:47 |
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Good point Roland.
Let's Just have Competitive (current box) & Open (S + R + L) |
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tmoila
Joined: Nov 25, 2012
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Oct 29, 2014 - 19:06 |
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I think merging the divisions removes any possibility to play fun and competitive games with non-bashing teams, resulting in boosted league play. And isn't BB actually ment to be played in somewhat more closed league environment?
Unless there is no rule changes to skills and such (as stated by admin) I would be against any kind of merging. |
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