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double_ones



Joined: Nov 02, 2005
Post 7 Posted: Nov 29, 2005 - 02:36 Reply with quote Back to top
What do I give this guy if he survives to gain another skill?

http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=player&player_id=2439485

I know it's pretty revolting having a AG6 thrower, but seriously... Strong Arm, Sure Hands or something else?
shadow46x2



Joined: Nov 22, 2003
Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2005 - 02:38 Reply with quote Back to top
he's niggled...

retire him....

nobody wants to see an ag6 anything...:-p

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orangeman11



Joined: Nov 16, 2005
Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2005 - 02:43 Reply with quote Back to top
niggled on the first F---ing ageing roll no less...
Markusen



Joined: Jan 23, 2005
Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2005 - 03:09 Reply with quote Back to top
Sure Hands
DonTomaso



Joined: Feb 20, 2005
Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2005 - 03:26 Reply with quote Back to top
Yeah, sure hands... any skill that reduces the RR-rolling is good... Despite his AG 6, he still fails on 1.

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Grishnakk



Joined: Nov 11, 2005
Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2005 - 03:30 Reply with quote Back to top
Strong arm!
SolomonKane



Joined: Jul 21, 2005
Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2005 - 03:38 Reply with quote Back to top
Or skills which improve your mobility. AG 6 precludes the need for a lot of passing skills, since he's already bombing on 2+ (or is it 3+?). Safe Throw would be useful, or Leap, Sure Feet, or Sprint.

I agree that Sure Hands isn't a bad idea either, but it seems to me the main thing that would increase your thrower's range even more is mobility skills...Let's see, sprint for 9 MA plus a 15 square bomb? 24 square throwing range, anyone?

On the other hand, what about making him a defensive thrower? Pass Block, Catch, Diving Catch, Tackle, something along those lines?
CircularLogic



Joined: Aug 22, 2003
Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2005 - 03:54 Reply with quote Back to top
hmm... dodge, then surehands, then block.

AG is needed for defense to retrive the ball and pass it away. On offense a normal elven thrower with accurate throws better passes than this guy. Don´t be fooled - AG6 still fumbbls a longpass on 1,2 and a longbomb on 1,2,3. So use the AG where you need it most: Defense.

On defense, you find yourself often in the situation, that you have knocked the ball free, but it´s in 3 TZ. This guy can dodge in, pickup and dodge out with 3+3+2+ and then pass the ball safely. As you are likely to have spent a reroll, when you go for the pickup, take things that give you rerolls, e.g. dodge (helps to survive), surehands and later block.

Should you roll a double, you could go for nerves of steel, as it allows you to pass without dodging out, but I would most likely forgoe a double on this one - he needs basic skills and let his AG do the rest.

Oh.. instead of block (or after) you could also consider passblock.
Laviak



Joined: Jul 19, 2004
Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2005 - 03:58 Reply with quote Back to top
SolomonKane: well, actually, without accurate or strong arm, he still fumbles a long bomb on a 1-3.

The main thing I'd use him for is recovering the ball in TZs. Probably dodge, leap or sure hands to improve the chances of success. Just don't expect him to live for long -- you probably don't want him to anyway (since he's niggled) ... just long enough to help other players get a few extra skills.

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Uber



Joined: Mar 22, 2004
Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2005 - 04:20 Reply with quote Back to top
I would go for leap, that helps you get to the ball and then you can dodge out. Forget throwing skills, ag6 players come once in a blue moon. 2+ short passing is good enough for him.

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RubenG



Joined: Aug 02, 2003
Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2005 - 05:44 Reply with quote Back to top
I had a ag6 thrower and safe throw is very useful
Cyco



Joined: Nov 30, 2003
Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2005 - 06:31 Reply with quote Back to top
shadow46x2 wrote:
he's niggled...

retire him....


Sconded (But if he didnt have niggle, Id give him sure hands).

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bitesize



Joined: Dec 23, 2004
Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2005 - 06:38 Reply with quote Back to top
You need to pretend he isn't a thrower anymore. Leap, Block, Dodge.
MrMojo



Joined: Apr 17, 2004
Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2005 - 07:29 Reply with quote Back to top
What is interesting is that he has tried passing for 47 times, but he only has 8 completions. You think about that for a second.

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Curro



Joined: Jun 07, 2005
Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2005 - 09:33 Reply with quote Back to top
Give him my congrats for staying alive.
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