Tolmandary
Joined: Aug 28, 2004
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Aug 05, 2006 - 15:39 |
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So glad LRB5 has changed the way niggles work. No more players missing games simply +1 to the injury dice roll per niggle next time they get hit. |
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Arcon
Joined: Mar 01, 2004
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Aug 06, 2006 - 16:51 |
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Tolmandary wrote: | So glad LRB5 has changed the way niggles work. No more players missing games simply +1 to the injury dice roll per niggle next time they get hit. |
Woot! Another LRB5 thread! |
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Wreckage
Joined: Aug 15, 2004
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Aug 06, 2006 - 16:54 |
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Tolmandary wrote: | So glad LRB5 has changed the way niggles work. No more players missing games simply +1 to the injury dice roll per niggle next time they get hit. |
this and aging removed are the mainreasons i hope it will work soon |
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vanGorn
Joined: Feb 24, 2004
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Aug 06, 2006 - 16:55 |
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Arcon wrote: | Tolmandary wrote: | So glad LRB5 has changed the way niggles work. No more players missing games simply +1 to the injury dice roll per niggle next time they get hit. |
Woot! Another LRB5 thread! |
But the 1st one especially about the formerly dreaded niggling injuries. |
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zerkalo
Joined: Dec 12, 2005
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Aug 06, 2006 - 17:01 |
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Treeman niggle isn't that bad.
Stunty niggle is very bad.
On niggled halflings you need only 7+8 to get a cas.
So new niggle rule is good for high av teams, very bad for low av teams. |
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Webbe
Joined: Aug 13, 2003
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Aug 06, 2006 - 17:07 |
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Thing is that niggling injuries is very uncommon in the current ruleset. There is no aging and it's only 1/24 chance for an injury to be a niggling injury (used to be 1/9). |
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vanGorn
Joined: Feb 24, 2004
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Aug 06, 2006 - 17:08 |
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zerkalo wrote: | Treeman niggle isn't that bad.
Stunty niggle is very bad.
On niggled halflings you need only 7+8 to get a cas.
So new niggle rule is good for high av teams, very bad for low av teams. |
Well, but new claw is good against high av teams and useless against low av |
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Britnoth
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Aug 06, 2006 - 17:31 |
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vanGorn wrote: | zerkalo wrote: | Treeman niggle isn't that bad.
Stunty niggle is very bad.
On niggled halflings you need only 7+8 to get a cas.
So new niggle rule is good for high av teams, very bad for low av teams. |
Well, but new claw is good against high av teams and useless against low av |
This is more than balanced by the new PO totally ripping low AV teams appart.
Current niggle is easier on low av teams. They often play with more reserves, so a guy missing is not a total disaster, and when he does play you can stick him on the line till he dies.
LRB5, for high av bashers a niggle can easily be carried, for low av teams it makes the player a totalliability, just too easy to hurt.
Overall, these changes have favoured high AV. |
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Papermonster
Joined: Mar 05, 2006
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Aug 06, 2006 - 17:54 |
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Webbe wrote: | Thing is that niggling injuries is very uncommon in the current ruleset. There is no aging and it's only 1/24 chance for an injury to be a niggling injury (used to be 1/9). |
LOL
Just remember a Nuffle 1/24 is very different from a real 1/24 chance |
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GalakStarscraper
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Aug 06, 2006 - 18:03 |
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I'm not convinced they favoured high AV.
MBBL just finished its first season with LRB 5.0 rules which ran from October 1st, 2005 to May 31, 2006 and we had the playoffs .... here were the top 8 races out of 180 teams:
1st: Orc
2nd: Khemri
3rd: Human
4th: Norse
5th: Dwarf
6th: Wood Elf
7th: Human
8th: Wood Elf
Out of the top 8 ... only 3 teams with 2 or more AV 9 players. So I'm not convinced at this time that it favours high AV from the results that I've seen.
Top 8 races in the MBBL right now for winning % are:
1st: Khemri
2nd: Human
3rd: Wood Elf
4th: Dwarf
5th: Orc
6th: Norse
7th: Chaos Dwarf
8th: Skaven
So again ... a decent showing in there by AV 8 and AV 7 teams.
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Tias_DK
Joined: Jun 18, 2006
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Aug 06, 2006 - 18:24 |
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Galak>> Surely, this could amount to good and bad coaching more than an inherent lack of bias in the rule set. I am personally concerned about high AV teams being pumped in 5.0, although I can't put a finger on the exact problem. Just paranoia I guess |
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Fama
Joined: Feb 09, 2005
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Aug 06, 2006 - 18:48 |
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Some of the problems with LRB 5 might be the high winning % of khemri, although MBBL stats are probably screwed up by high level coaches. Another thing is orc and chaos dwarves - VERY powerful races before, and especially orcs just got a price hike on the troll. Of course, the new claw hurts them (vs. chaos, compare old claw with new claw+MB), but they gain more diversity with new skills while they mainly got nerfed with... the troll cost increase. Still, I don't know if they'll be overpowered. |
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Britnoth
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Aug 06, 2006 - 19:12 |
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Hard to take 'testing' seriously with a result like this though. |
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Diabl0658
Joined: Oct 05, 2004
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Aug 06, 2006 - 19:31 |
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No it makes sense, Khemri can play the ball just as well as everyone else when the pitch is clear |
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shadow46x2
Joined: Nov 22, 2003
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Aug 06, 2006 - 22:34 |
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yay galak for screwing up our game...thanks man...appreciate you dumping a load of crap on a piece of paper and calling it "rules"
congrats to all you whiners who complained day in and day out about aging...WHAAAAA I CAN'T TAKE IT!! CHANGE IT!!!
congrats to all you whiners who complained day in and day out about the niggling system...WHAAAAA I CAN'T TAKE IT!! CHANGE IT!!!
i'm just waiting, with crow in hand for all of you, when you start whining about the new DP system, and crying for it to be changed back to what it was
--j |
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