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CircularLogic



Joined: Aug 22, 2003

Post   Posted: Nov 28, 2005 - 23:02 Reply with quote Back to top

macike wrote:
macike wrote:
I've made some probability calculations and here comes the outcome (in short):
- it is always worth to GFI once,
- it is always worth to GFI twice if you have a spare RR,
- it is worth to GFI twice if you have not a spare RR and your target roll is 5+ or 6+.

I would like to add the update for a blizzard:
- it is always worth to GFI once if you have a spare RR,
- it is worth to GFI once without a spare RR if you need 6+,
- it is never worth to GFI twice if you have not a spare RR,
- it is worth to GFI twice without a spare RR if your target roll is 5+ or 6+.

Just to remind - target roll means the value you need to dice. So it doesn't matter whether pass has to be accurate or just not fumbbled.


Passing on a 6+ in a Blizzard means the passer has AG1 or is in 1 or more TZ, which makes the whole point obsolete anyways - AG1-players needing to pass in a Blizzard will either make it for sure, no matter how many rolls, or won`t make it no matter how much is calculated.
macike



Joined: Jun 25, 2005

Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2005 - 09:33 Reply with quote Back to top

CircularLogic wrote:

Passing on a 6+ in a Blizzard means the passer has AG1 or is in 1 or more TZ, which makes the whole point obsolete anyways - AG1-players needing to pass in a Blizzard will either make it for sure, no matter how many rolls, or won`t make it no matter how much is calculated.

Leaving TZ means dodge and this is not taken into consideration as it would strongly impact the calculations.

Just imagine that an AG1 player caught a scattering ball and he is your last hope for winning a game. Wink If you manage to have a spare RR for the pass the chance of successful 5+ roll is 5/9 (contrast - 11/36 for 6+). That's over 50% (contrast almost 33% for 6+). Quite a difference, isn't it?
I agree that everything collapses if you don't manage a 3+ GFI roll. But it means you would not manage an accurate pass neither.

EDIT: 'Treeman' substituted with 'AG1 player'

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Cloggy



Joined: Sep 23, 2004

Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2005 - 09:51 Reply with quote Back to top

I'm so jealous of people who have trees that can use rerolls.

I want one too.......

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Curro



Joined: Jun 07, 2005

Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2005 - 09:58 Reply with quote Back to top

/me wants one too
/me is tired of seeing his trees in the ground because of those damned POW/SKULLS. *sigh*
macike



Joined: Jun 25, 2005

Post 6 Posted: Nov 29, 2005 - 10:03 Reply with quote Back to top

Cloggy wrote:
I'm so jealous of people who have trees that can use rerolls.

I want one too.......

ROTFL I still can't forget the old good times when BG could have General skills and use team RRs. Laughing

/me blinks because of a tear

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MrMojo



Joined: Apr 17, 2004

Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2005 - 10:16 Reply with quote Back to top

Nobody's perfect. Not even you, Macike.

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JanMattys



Joined: Feb 29, 2004

Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2005 - 10:24 Reply with quote Back to top

/me prefers +ST Ogres...
They don't take root, they move 5...

/me drools

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macike



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Post   Posted: Nov 29, 2005 - 10:26 Reply with quote Back to top

MrMojo wrote:
Nobody's perfect. Not even you, Macike.

Wait a minute. I am Nobody. ;P

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