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tassel



Joined: May 04, 2004

Post 3 Posted: Dec 18, 2005 - 20:53 Reply with quote Back to top

Moro / Hello.

I was a bit bored and wanted to contribute somehow, so here's a table of some TTM probabilities put (IMO) neatly to one file:

http://tohveli.nallukka.net/~tassel/BB/ttmsimple.txt

I hope I'll be able to paste it on this post too. The probabilities are for just the pass to succeed, accurately or at least not fumbbling the team mate. Landing you'll have to take into account yourself. Also I can't guarantee a hundred per cent accuracy in the figures, but if there should be any errors at least they're not intentional.

I've noted Pro can be used on any of the rolls but one only, and that Pass will be used for rerolling the Pass rather than Pro even if you have both, and I have a pretty good idea how those should be calculated, so I hope there's not too much to fix... And if you want to see some helping elements to how I calculated that http://tohveli.nallukka.net/~tassel/BB/ttm.txt should help.

Hopefully this will help someone. Razz

Code:

Thrower    Quick pass      Short pass      Long pass

           Accurate        Accurate        Accurate
       ag          Non-Fumbble     Non-Fumbble     Non-Fumbble

Ogre   2   27,8%   69,4%   13,9%   55,6%   13,9%   41,7%
Pro    2   39,4%   81,0%   20,8%   69,4%   20,8%   55,6%
Pass   2   46,3%   81,0%   25,4%   74,1%   25,4%   62,5%
Both   2   50,2%   87,8%   27,6%   80,2%   27,6%   67,7%

Ogre   3   41,7%   69,4%   27,8%   55,6%   13,9%   41,7%
Pro    3   55,6%   81,0%   39,4%   69,4%   20,8%   55,6%
Pass   3   62,5%   81,0%   46,3%   74,1%   25,4%   62,5%
Both   3   67,7%   87,8%   50,2%   80,2%   27,6%   67,7%

Mino   2   13,9%   34,7%    6,9%   27,8%    6,9%   20,8%
Pro    2   23,1%   49,2%   12,2%   41,7%   12,2%   33,0%
Pass   2   23,1%   40,5%   12,7%   37,0%   12,7%   31,3%
Both   2   38,6%   54,0%   21,2%   49,4%   21,2%   41,7%

Mino   3   20,8%   34,7%   13,9%   27,8%    6,9%   20,8%
Pro    3   33,0%   49,2%   23,1%   41,7%   12,2%   33,0%
Pass   3   31,3%   40,5%   23,1%   37,0%   12,7%   31,3%
Both   3   41,7%   54,0%   30,9%   49,4%   21,2%   41,7%

Tree   1   16,7%   83,3%   16,7%   66,7%   16,7%   50,0%
Pro    1   23,6%   90,3%   23,6%   77,8%   23,6%   62,5%
Pass   1   30,6%   97,2%   30,6%   88,9%   30,6%   75,0%
Both   1   30,6%   97,2%   30,6%   88,9%   30,6%   75,0%

Tree   2   33,3%   83,3%   16,7%   66,7%   16,7%   50,0%
Pro    2   44,4%   90,3%   23,6%   77,8%   23,6%   62,5%
Pass   2   44,4%   97,2%   30,6%   88,9%   30,6%   75,0%
Both   2   44,4%   97,2%   30,6%   88,9%   30,6%   75,0%

Without assistance for Really Stupid
Troll  1    6,9%   27,8%    6,9%   27,8%    6,9%   20,8%
Pro    1   12,2%   41,7%   12,2%   41,7%   12,2%   33,0%
Pass   1   12,7%   37,0%   12,7%   37,0%   12,7%   31,3%
Both   1   21,2%   49,4%   21,2%   49,4%   21,2%   41,7%

With an assist
Troll  1   11,6%   57,8%   11,6%   46,3%   11,6%   34,7%
Pro    1   18,3%   72,3%   18,3%   61,7%   18,3%   49,2%
Pass   1   21,2%   67,5%   21,2%   61,7%   21,2%   52,1%
Both   1   24,8%   78,8%   24,8%   72,0%   24,8%   60,8%

Without assistance for Really Stupid
Troll  2   13,9%   34,7%    6,9%   27,8%    6,9%   20,8%
Pro    2   23,1%   49,2%   12,2%   41,7%   12,2%   33,0%
Pass   2   23,1%   40,5%   12,7%   37,0%   12,7%   31,3%
Both   2   38,6%   54,0%   21,2%   49,4%   21,2%   41,7%

With an assist
Troll  2   23,1%   57,8%   11,6%   46,3%   11,6%   34,7%
Pro    2   44,4%   72,3%   18,3%   61,7%   18,3%   49,2%
Pass   2   38,6%   67,5%   21,2%   61,7%   21,2%   52,1%
Both   2   61,1%   78,8%   24,8%   72,0%   24,8%   60,8%
DonTomaso



Joined: Feb 20, 2005

Post   Posted: Dec 18, 2005 - 20:59 Reply with quote Back to top

Nice, but you must certainly have been bored.. Wink

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nin



Joined: May 27, 2005

Post   Posted: Dec 18, 2005 - 21:01 Reply with quote Back to top

Wonder wat would you have done if you were really bored and not just a bit Shocked
But thanks, it will help, now I see trees with different eyes Rolling Eyes
tassel



Joined: May 04, 2004

Post   Posted: Dec 18, 2005 - 21:02 Reply with quote Back to top

Hehe you can say that again. But the dullest part of the job was trying to make that table show right on these forums Laughing
torsoboy



Joined: Nov 23, 2004

Post   Posted: Dec 18, 2005 - 21:29 Reply with quote Back to top

But... how can a Troll not have an assist for Really Stupid if he's doing a TTM?

I wondered; but as soon as I typed that sentence I figured he could do a move action before TTM and thus start the turn without an assist.
Mezir



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Dec 18, 2005 - 21:47 Reply with quote Back to top

For the same reason one would have to add a clause "tree has to move" to the Treeman statblock.

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vanGorn



Joined: Feb 24, 2004

Post   Posted: Dec 18, 2005 - 22:08 Reply with quote Back to top

Well, if the big guy has to move for the throw, he might have to dodge too, with or without having break tackle. That's adds further dimensions to the space of probabilities.
But anyway, who really cares about probabilities when there's the chance for a cool ttm?

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Diabl0658



Joined: Oct 05, 2004

Post   Posted: Dec 18, 2005 - 22:09 Reply with quote Back to top

the goblin could be suffering from duh where am i, and not have a tackle zone when thrown, meaning no really stupid assist

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tassel



Joined: May 04, 2004

Post   Posted: Dec 18, 2005 - 23:25 Reply with quote Back to top

And who knows if giving Troll Buzzing will affect his ability to TTM in addition to losing ball handling abilities? Oh the extra work... Wink
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