Panda_
Joined: Jul 14, 2004
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Jan 22, 2006 - 16:42 |
 
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Hi,
I have several troubles to beat the orcs with a fast team like skaven.
I managed to win against them when the TR is not high.
But when i get to 200TR and more, orcs and Chaos Dwarfs are impossible to beat.
Not just that they win the game, but they also break my team in the process. I can't find something to prevent them.
When i receive the kickoff, i don't manage to delay my touchdown enough to trouble them.
And when they recieve the kick, even if it's deep in their half, they already have a correct thrower that throw the ball near their cage and i can't help but being beated to death.
With those skavens, they can't dodge out 1 case like others elfs, and they can't bash them like humans can do.
I don't like the oneturner thing. But is it the only way to get the draw ?
I repeat that the poll is about ~200+ TR orcs ! |
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mymLaban
Joined: Apr 20, 2004
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Jan 22, 2006 - 16:53 |
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i have to agree with you to some extend i must admit that i kinda try to avoid CDs and orcs with mjy own skaven teams i have 1 atm with more then 20 matches and i ionly played vs orcs once i think i won that one though but i do have a one turner hehe maybe thats why i dont know, but i do agree that its hard to play orcs with skaves |
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Skeloboy
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jan 22, 2006 - 17:12 |
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I really don't know why, cause I never rethink my games after I have played them, but my skaven has beaten a lot of chaos dwarves and orcs....
The win/draw/loss record is:
Orc: 21/ 10/ 6
cd: 17/ 3/ 5
The main reason I win sometimes, is because of blodge, side step, diving tackle runners.
And then patience...its really about waiting for your opponent to fail. Don't worry about 3+ dodges and don't worry about loosing players, cause you will...but protect your runners and throwers |
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Bloodoholic
Joined: Dec 26, 2005
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Jan 22, 2006 - 17:14 |
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I have this problem too....but with Amazons
iwe lost all my games against them |
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Panda_
Joined: Jul 14, 2004
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Jan 22, 2006 - 21:06 |
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The thing i have to remind you is that it was possible to get a result under 170 TR. But after it is really harder. The subject is for after 200TR.
Every matchs i have played, they don't do any mistakes. Or if they made one, it's hard for me to profit of it. Because, i need to put players into bad conditions AND the dices rolls are not easy. |
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Smess
Joined: Feb 13, 2004
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Jan 22, 2006 - 21:55 |
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Spectate games or watch replays of dedicated skaven coaches like AFK_Eagle, Fanatic, Mr_QB, Dreadclaw, Skeleoboy, Bendrig, Gitzbang, etc. Should help normaly. |
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spelledaren
Joined: Mar 06, 2004
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Jan 22, 2006 - 22:49 |
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Plorg
Joined: May 08, 2005
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Jan 22, 2006 - 23:45 |
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Watching some of your replays, I'd just say not to rely so much on the Rat Ogre.
He's fairly expensive and fragile to be putting on the LOS.
Also, try not to start your turn with the Rat Ogre blocking/blitzing when another
reroll-capable player could be making the same move. The block-less
Rat Ogre will occasionally fail his attacks and fall down, and there will be
nothing you can do about it. You should try to use the rest of your team
first so that when the RO fails, your team won't be in a position to get pounded
by the players they could have been blocking. |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Jan 23, 2006 - 16:14 |
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SF, +str, guard probably makes an orken cage something nearly impossible to break. Try to pressure them early on, force them to get hasty, no basher coach likes that. |
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Macavity
Joined: Nov 23, 2004
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Jan 23, 2006 - 16:24 |
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Don't fight them. The problem with Skaven is that they can look bashier than they are. The RO, and a few Claws do not mean they should try that game against the AV 9 teams. Act like a brand-new team, and you might get better results. Hit when you have to, not when you want to.
and get into their backfield before the cage forms if at all possible. |
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