freak_in_a_frock
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 06, 2004 - 11:20 |
 
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Surely if you are saying that a player in both tz can't assist then it means if he has guard he can assist twice, once for each player. Now this is obviously wrong but with your interpretation of the rules would be perfectly legal.
Ithink it is fine as it is, and also makes complete sense as it is. |
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Xeterog
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 06, 2004 - 11:40 |
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One player can only lend one assist to a block. Multiple block is one block vs 2 players. You add the opposition players strengths together but in all other respects, the block is handled normally (as if the multiple block was not happening).
The rules are pretty clear on this, IMO. If you would be eligible to lend an assist against this opponent if this was a normal block, then you can lend an assist against this opponent if he is one of the targets of a Multiple block. However, if you would not be eligible to lend and assist against this opponent if this was normal block, then you cannot lend an assist against the opponent if he is one of the targets of a Multipe block
You don't (or shouldn't) GAIN assists because now you are blocking two players instead of one.
Am I the only one here that sees that if you let assists work differently than normal that this makes Multiple block a much better skill...bordering on almost too good.
Yes, I know it is a hard skill to use even when counting all adjacent players for assists...but I think it makes it too good of a skill if you do allow these assists. |
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freak_in_a_frock
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Mar 06, 2004 - 12:36 |
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can you explain to me where in the LRB it says that you can only add one assist per block? It does say that you can only lend one assist per player, and if we are to interpretate the rules in this different way then it goes that the guard player can lend 2 assists, one per player. I am not saying that this rule should be used, only that if you treat the 2 players as individuals then all the other things that go with it must be taken into account.
As i have stated the rule is fine as it is, i think there are more important issues to deal with than looking at every rule in minute detail, multiblock is broken in a lot more important ways then the way assists are handled |
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cataphract
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 06, 2004 - 12:52 |
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| freak_in_a_frock wrote: | Surely if you are saying that a player in both tz can't assist then it means if he has guard he can assist twice, once for each player. Now this is obviously wrong but with your interpretation of the rules would be perfectly legal.
Ithink it is fine as it is, and also makes complete sense as it is. |
good call! |
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Jared
Joined: Aug 16, 2003
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Mar 06, 2004 - 14:10 |
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Khaan
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 06, 2004 - 14:26 |
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Yes Jared, but dauntless+multi isn't very safe. Usually you are looking at having to roll 7+ for the dauntless to work. |
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Emberglow
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 06, 2004 - 14:27 |
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I've heard it's a great idea to get beastman with multiblock and dauntless. that way he can blitz one or two players all by himself and still get two dice.
personally, i think dauntless/multiblock combo is overrated. if you use it on two st 3 players it is fairly easy to throw a six or less. that's a chance i don't want to make when i'm trying to prevent the opponent from scoring. |
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Jared
Joined: Aug 16, 2003
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Mar 06, 2004 - 14:32 |
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MixX
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 06, 2004 - 15:30 |
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actually, the odds of getting 7+ on 2D6 are 21/36, ie better than 50%. |
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Xeterog
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 06, 2004 - 23:58 |
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| Code: | Guard (Strength Skill)
A player with this skill may assist an offensive or defensive
block even if he is in another player’s tackle zone.
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note that you lend the assist to the block, not against the opposing player. Since Multi-block is a single block (granted, against 2 players), a single guard will only lend one assist. |
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AsperonThorn
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 08, 2004 - 16:47 |
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Multiple = More then one.
Multiple block = More then one block
I am arguing semantics, but I think you are too, Gortex. And, Frock makes an excellent point.
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freak_in_a_frock
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Mar 08, 2004 - 17:03 |
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Is was not a serious point that i made, just showing how each rule if we look hard enough can be bent and twisted to suit each individual as they see fit. I will say yet again i think the multi block rule is used as intended at the moment and seeing as most teams have some sort of access to it their can't be many complaints against it. |
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