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JimmyFantastic



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Post   Posted: Jan 15, 2013 - 23:37 Reply with quote Back to top

The Oldheim Ogres definitely had goblins in 2nd ed, usual roster was stated as 6 ogres and 4 goblins.
On pitch were 5 ogres and one goblin though, so they weren't exactly a major part of the team.

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Chainsaw



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Post   Posted: Jan 16, 2013 - 00:05 Reply with quote Back to top

@harvestmouse:
So you're saying that 8 ogres and 4 marauders and 4 snots and unlimited goblins is a serious roster too?

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harvestmouse



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Post   Posted: Jan 16, 2013 - 00:09 Reply with quote Back to top

Chainsaw wrote:
@harvestmouse:
So you're saying that 8 ogres and 4 marauders and 4 snots and unlimited goblins is a serious roster too?


Hmmm? No, you aren't getting it at all. For me there should be 2 rosters.

Oldheim Ogres (Ogs and Gobs) and

Ogres (Ogs and Nobs)

I'm just explaining why he's justifying the roster (which I believe he did, if you read all his posts).
Chainsaw



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Post   Posted: Jan 16, 2013 - 00:16 Reply with quote Back to top

You and I must be talking a different language.

PainState comes on and suggests a ludicrous roster. Then he backs it with fluff. Either you think that's a moronic suggestion or you think it's viable. You're being awfully unclear.

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PainState



Joined: Apr 04, 2007

Post   Posted: Jan 16, 2013 - 01:24 Reply with quote Back to top

What if he thinks its neither moronic or viable and just a possible answer to the original question that was asked in the OP?

You seem to be doing a lot of "barking" about an answer to a question that you yourself asked.

I think by this point we all understand you do not like the answer I gave.

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PainState



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Post   Posted: Jan 16, 2013 - 01:33 Reply with quote Back to top

Chainsaw wrote:

PainState comes on and suggests a ludicrous roster.


I need to stop, I know, but I just cant help myself.

IMO the ludicrous roster is allready approved..Chaos Pact.

No one, as in a very small minority of coaches, runs them to the fluff that inspired them and instead runs a TV min/Max whore of a team the exploits the intention of the roster.

IF by for some god forsaken reason my Ogre team that I originally posted as a possible Ogre variant, I dont even get the benefit of a rough draft of a roster, just the finished project, one attempt and then out. We can all see what the main issue is.

You would run 8 ogres, 4 marauders and 1 goblin and never take a snotling, ever!

Ok, now Iam really done, I threw my 2 cents into the arena of ideas and got lambasted. I will cya everyone around in the next installment in another thread.

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PainState



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Post   Posted: Jan 16, 2013 - 01:40 Reply with quote Back to top

Chainsaw wrote:
Then he backs it with fluff.


Atleast I backed it up with something viable, as in rosters have been amended/created to accomidate old 2ED teams...Just because a land know as Bretonia exists does not mean they need their own special human variant line up.


Sorry, I know, OK fine...Iam leaving. Good bye,

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Chainsaw



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Post   Posted: Jan 16, 2013 - 01:57 Reply with quote Back to top

*facepalm*

At least you admit openly you trolled this discussion because you hate Chaos Pact.

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Chainsaw



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Post   Posted: Jan 16, 2013 - 02:08 Reply with quote Back to top

PainState wrote:
What if he thinks its neither moronic or viable and just a possible answer to the original question that was asked in the OP?


Original question: how to FIX them. You can not with a straight face answer, "By breaking them even further in the opposite direction." If you do say it with a straight face, you can not expect to be taken seriously. It doesn't matter how much fluff you throw at it.

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Wizfall



Joined: Dec 09, 2011

Post   Posted: Jan 16, 2013 - 02:09 Reply with quote Back to top

PainState is on "tilt" !
Challenge him ASAP Smile
Mr_Foulscumm



Joined: Mar 05, 2005

Post   Posted: Jan 16, 2013 - 03:49 Reply with quote Back to top

Who could have thought that a thread about fixes would turn into a troll fest Very Happy

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Draxus



Joined: Nov 14, 2004

Post   Posted: Jan 16, 2013 - 05:08 Reply with quote Back to top

- Reduce the cost 20k to 10k, of the 0-16 snotling, it matches closer to their next to nothing value.
- Ogres no change 0-6 140k
- They gain access to one Skull Smasher 6 3 3 8 Loner, Juggernaut, Grab Normal Skill:GS Double Skill:AP Cost:120k
- RR70k
harvestmouse



Joined: May 13, 2007

Post   Posted: Jan 16, 2013 - 08:28 Reply with quote Back to top

He wasn't trolling at all. He quantified his reason why the roster (could) go down those lines.

Enough of this.

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